Solo Cup Redevelopment Opponents Demand Information

Group files public information act request seeking emails, texts and other records from Council Chairwoman Vicki Almond and her staff.

A group opposed to the redevelopment of Solo Cup is demanding that Councilwoman Vicki Almond turn over records related to her efforts on behalf of Greenberg Gibbons, the developer of the project.

The three-page letter filed Tuesday by Say No to Solo Cup requests emails, instant messages and other documents from Almond and her staff as it relates to Greeenberg Gibbons and its lawyers, including former County Executive Jim Smith. Most of the documents requested relate to Almond's travel to Las Vegas to attend the International Council of Shopping Centers conference.

Almond is scheduled next week to announce a zoning decision that could lead to a redevelopment of the Owings Mills property. Greenberg Gibbons plan to build Foundry Row, a shopping center complex that would include a Wegmans grocery store.

Supik declined to discuss the request.

"It wasn't meant to become public to begin with," said Supik, who is part of the group Say No to Solo Cup.

"These are not accusations, these are questions," said Supik. "We're concerned about the integrity of the process and hope that Councilwoman Almond and the County Council will release the information and reassure the public."

Almond was not immediately available for comment.

The letter filed with Almond and the council seeks the documents prior to August 28, when the final zoning decision on the Solo Cup property is scheduled to be announced.

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Tim August 22, 2012 at 02:05 PM
News article in the Sun last week, I believe it was. It was the story I read about the new Giant being open here Friday. In fact, it also included info that Whole Foods was planning on opening a new store in Columbia, as well. Honestly, I'd be shocked if they opened a Wegman's here. There's no need. It makes no sense with the one in Hunt Valley. I don't doubt the working relationship, but there was a lot of handwringing about even opening the Abingdon one, because they prefer to keep a certain distance between their stores.
Tim August 22, 2012 at 02:08 PM
^^^ this is also why Perry Hall will never get a Wegman's. In their mind, you go to their Abingdon one, or not at all. Their mindset, from what I read, is they think enough people will travel the distance to go to a ridiculously superior market. Their numbers appear to bear this out.
Maryland August 22, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Rezoning following the CZMP process is not a variance, Robert. There are 35 requests in District 2 alone, and this one is specifically recommended for rezoning in the Master Plan.
Maryland August 22, 2012 at 02:25 PM
From that article: Wegmans, which has five Maryland stores, including those in Hunt Valley, Columbia and Abingdon, plans to open one facility in Crofton in October and another in Germantown next spring. The chain also is planning to anchor a retail project in Owings Mills that is in the planning stages.
Robert Bloomberg August 22, 2012 at 02:34 PM
The proximity to the Owings Mills subway stop is a concern. It seems to be the elephant in the room that no one wants to address. I remember what a thriving upscale shopping experience Owings Mills Mall was before the extension of the subway. I remember how it was so successful they built what was supposed to be a luxury wing. Then the subway opened and the demographics changed. It seems like it didn’t take long for the mall to begin dying a slow death. The upscale shopper abandoned the mall and traveled toTowson instead. I had my car stolen from the OM subway lot and broken into once. What has changed to make anyone think the results would be any different?
Tim August 22, 2012 at 02:36 PM
OK, memory fail on my part then. Thanks, I stand corrected. Seem to have remembered everything else in that article BUT that.
ddbs00 August 22, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Robert, with Metro Centre opening right at the subway station criminals won't have to go all the way to Foundry Row to rob and steal. That's something to thank Brown for.
Robert Bloomberg August 22, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Buzz Beeler August 22, 2012 at 05:08 PM
Ah yes, now where have I heard he name of Jim Smith. Seems his influence is everywhere, everywhere! I would seriously doubt Ms. Almod coming forward with information on this matter. The council will vote across the board with the zoning changes as a matter of councilmatic curtsey or defined as - you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
Robert Bloomberg August 22, 2012 at 06:01 PM
You're right...all this debate is meaningless when its politics as usual.
lobos32 August 22, 2012 at 07:26 PM
Again, Robert. Put your name on the ballot.
Steve August 22, 2012 at 07:52 PM
"Ah yes, now where have I heard he name of Jim Smith" He was the County Executive from 2002-2010
Buzz Beeler August 22, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Yep that's him, still with his hands in the mix. You don't think he spent all those years and money on PUD's, council candidates and influence for nothing do you? If the ratings that matched Congress were in line with their pay we would have a budget surplus. I think you can add Mr. Smith to that list. Apparently he saw the writing on the wall before bowing out of his Senate seat bid.
Robert Bloomberg August 22, 2012 at 08:01 PM
What do my comments have to do with running for office; I'm debating the issue. If you've got a good point make it and I'll consider it....let's get some logic going here. Why don't you identify yourself?
Buck Harmon August 22, 2012 at 08:07 PM
Lawyers that become politicians should be disbarred...no good ever seems to come of it for the average citizen....too damn many cliques...
Steve August 22, 2012 at 08:12 PM
He is a real estate lawyer. That is what he does for a living. It's how he makes his money. It's no big deal.
Buzz Beeler August 22, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Hey Steve, put up a shingle outside you office or whatever and write - A-1 Real Estate Lawyer for hire - and I'll sit here and watch you starve to death and it won't take long. Smith is advertising his connections with the players and that is how the game is played. It's common sense and does not require a middle school education even though you claim among other careers to be an engineer. Ask yourself this. His firm represents Fort Howard. How come they did not see what the GAO is looking at? Makes you wonder doesn't it Dutch. http://dundalk.patch.com/blog_posts/feds-investigate-fort-howard-llc-and-process-behind-project
Robert Bloomberg August 22, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Two thumbs up on that one...remember what Shakespere said about lawyers?
Buck Harmon August 22, 2012 at 08:47 PM
More like "steal estate" lawyer...or steal a state lawyer..
Steve August 22, 2012 at 09:02 PM
The GAO isn't looking at anything. That's just another one of your conspiracy theories. You just make stuff up, write about it on Patch and pretend it's true.
Buzz Beeler August 22, 2012 at 09:45 PM
I have witnesses that say otherwise and they are ten times more credible than a guy named Steve/Robert/AdamBuam. Now either put up some links, witnesses or other credible evidence behind that mouth or anything else except - Steve says. Either put up or shut up! My witnesses are credible, you are not.
Steve August 22, 2012 at 10:09 PM
LOL You have "witnesses" now? What a joke! How about a few "unnamed sources". You are just trying to smear people through rumor and innuendo.
Buzz Beeler August 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM
If that were the case why haven't I been sued for libel. The reason is I write the truth and have the facts to back it up. Maybe you should take the time to watch the movie "All the President's Men," and then you might have an understanding of how these types of stories come together. Go to my web site and see how long I've been doing this. Click on articles and read. Not bad with my column appearing next to Andy Rooney. If anyone wants to sue me I'm right here. I would love to get some of these people on the stand under oath and there will be more than reporters in the audience.
Buck Harmon August 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Steve is a "Patch pigeon" Buzz....wandering aimlessly up and down the boards pooing all over them with nothing of value to add. Pp..
Buzz Beeler August 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Buck Steve is Steve. He'll never listen to anyone. I tried to convince him to practice adult discourse and he won't listen and that is why no one takes him seriously. I learned many, many years ago as a young cop, never go into court without all of your ducks in a row. A good lawyer will eat you alive. When I get a tip I verify, verify, check and recheck. I run it by my lawyers just to make sure. The problem is that these guys are playing the game and I'm sort of an umpire. They can argue with me in the comments and sue me if I libel them. The danger with a suit they had better be right cause sure as heck, I'll have to whole crowd on the stand and their lies the problem. You sequester those who will testify which presents a complex issue of who is saying what. Then there is the case of documents. I have file drawers of documents obtained through PIA's. I spent 39 years in government. You get to know a lot of people, many of them who have seen it all. When that happens, and you get an unhappy workforce your phone will ring off the hook. There are many times I can't get to all the issues that come my way. I try and work on issues that are new and not previously reported by the media.
FIFA August 23, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Buzz, your problem should be with Buck. Although Steve speaks things you disagree with, Buck is a self admitted tax fraud. He believes that the federal income tax is illegal and thus evades it. Which is a felony. Be careful who you sleep with Buzz.
Buck Harmon August 23, 2012 at 01:31 AM
O FIFA, Fifa, fifa...The original Patch Pigeon, lies through is beak while poopin up the Patch with unfounded statements created from his tiny pigeon mind. Buzz has been on to your very non productive poo for a long time. I'll give you one last chance to prove that this comment is not a lie brfore shutting you down. Provide us with either the statement that I made about cheating on any tax or evading anything, including your lame comments. Or provide us with the statute that gives the government legal authority to take personal property without your permission. You have failed miserable 9 times now by spewing the same lame lie. Provide some proof or remain the PP goof...you tell a lot of lies, no wonder you cower at using a real name.
Buck Harmon August 23, 2012 at 01:35 AM
I also heard from a very reliable source that you were a Nixon lover...".little Dick."..
Bryan P. Sears August 23, 2012 at 12:41 PM
More this morning from Owings Mills Patch Local Editor Marc Shapiro on the lack of transparency when it comes to who is funding the "Say No to Solo Cup" opposition group. http://owingsmills.patch.com/articles/the-mysterious-funding-of-say-no-to-solo
Steve August 23, 2012 at 02:24 PM
"Or provide us with the statute that gives the government legal authority to take personal property without your permission." More of that Sovereign Citizen BS. How are your fellow Sovereign Citizens making out down in LA after they ambushed the 4 Cops?


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