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Twitter Battle Between Lesbian, Transgender Advocates Leads to Court Order

A peace order was issued against Phylicia Sampson, a Baltimore resident, in Baltimore County District Court on Wednesday.

 

A Twitter message about spitting led Towson lawyer and lesbian advocate Cathy Brennan to file for a peace order against a transgender advocate.

Phylicia Sampson, a 28-year-old Baltimore resident, and Brennan, 42, were engaged in a heated debate on the social media site when Sampson wrote that she wanted to spit in Brennan's face.

Baltimore County Distict Court Judge Barbara Jung ordered Sampson to stay away from Brennan's home and place of employment, and to cease contact, according to the peace order. The order expires June 9.

Brennan, a former member of the Boards of the Gay and Lesbian Community
Center of Baltimore, said she has been a gay activist since 1995, but is of the opinion that transgendered women are male and should not have access to "female spaces."

"The balancing interest and concern between lesbians and transwomen is an issue," she said. "This is an issue in [the LGBT] community, but I don't think this has bubbled into the main stream yet."

She runs a controversial blog where she expresses her viewpoints.

Brennan said she met Sampson, a graduate student, through mutual friends in fall 2011, and had invited her into her home on several occassions. 

"At some point, we came to a fork in the road because she believes transwomen are women," she said.

Brennan said Sampson had been sending her a slew of aggressive messages and continued to do so even after Brennan asked her to end their communications.

"I'm afraid of this person at this point," said Brennan, who added that she has received several death threats for her stance. "I take [threats] very seriously."

In a brief phone call with a reporter, Sampson said she has no plans to contact Brennan.

"[Brennan] uses the law as a form of manipulation," she said. "I have said some things but nothing personal about her."

Sampson has since blocked her Twitter page from public view.

Related Topics: Baltimore County District County, Cathy Brennan, and Phylicia Sampson

Walter

6:12 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

You mean spitting led to a peace order, or was she literally spitting metallic lead?

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Adam Bednar

8:40 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Walter, thanks for pointing that out. I was the editor on this story, and I had a huge mental lapse and didn't recognize that mistake. I really appreciate you making sure I corrected that problem.

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Kate Huh

3:35 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Cathy Brennan also wrote in her blog that she was "attacked" and "assaulted" at the NYC dyke march last spring when, in reality, several people (including some of the dyke march organizers) approached her to question her about her political tactics... such as "outing" trans people, publishing their work or school info on her blog etc. Brennan wrote that she was "surrounded" and feared for her safety at the NYC dyke march. This was not true. I witnessed what happened, which was a circle of people having a heated political discussion. There were hundreds of police in the park while this happened, a dozen or so standing only 30 yards away, none saw any reason to intervene because all that was happening was some people debating in a public park. When Ms. Brennan had enough of the conversation she simply walked away. Yet afterwards there were many bloggers writing about this alleged "attack/assault" as though Ms. Brennan had been victimized by anti-lesbian trans people and their allies. Brennan's political hobby is insulting transgender people, even claiming that they don't actually exist... it's no surprise that some people will respond to her insults with strong distaste. Her claims of victimization devalue the actual homophobic assaults that take place in this country on a daily basis.

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Linda H.

4:42 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Kate Huh quote::
" (including some of the dyke march organizers) "

Ummm hm. The "dyke march organizer" WHO with an aggressive party, physically SURROUNDED Cathy Brennan AND this same "dyke march organzer" who ALSO happens to be Male 2TG AND this same "dyke march organizer" who at the time of the incident... ENGAGED to a hetero man.

THAT "dyke march organizer" you mean?
Well... that same "dyke march organizer" was really looking after dykes at their own DYKE MARCH.... oh wait. NO.

Keep spinning... but we are here to call out RUMPELSTILTSKIN.

Phylicia Sampson

6:55 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

This article is full of errors and inaccurate information to start. I'm not 28 years old. This website's journalism is at the most unprofessional in how Nayana Davis originally approached me in regards to wanting information from me, and her ability to research public information such as MY BIRTHDATE. You fail at seeking the truth, and providing NEWSWORTHY information.

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Vincent Vizachero

7:15 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

This story makes more sense now. Thank you.

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Adam Bednar

7:34 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Phylicia, Nayana Davis is away right now and asked me to respond to you. I'm the editor of North Baltimore Patch, and this story is also posted on my website. According to the case records, your birthday is April 12, 1984. So based on the information available to us you are listed as 28 years old. If this is incorrect please feel free to tell us your correct age. Also, you allege this article is full of errors. Please email me at adam.bednar@patch.com to discuss those mistakes. Patch's policy is to correct any incorrect information in a timely and transparent manner.

Phylicia Sampson

8:28 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Information regarding the case was a result of the mis-information provided by Cathy Brennan (among other things). This is not news--this is gossip and slander which is a form of journalism that is NOT regarded in a professional sense. Thorough research was not conducted. A peace order was filed against me on the basis of a "life-threatening" concern which in this case happens to be spitting. If you haven't noticed, Cathy Brennan is clearly using this incident as SLANDER against my character if spitting is such a major concern. I'm very disappointed, with the writer and her disregards for my concerns when she contacted me.

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Adam Bednar

8:48 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Phylicia, I've invited you to discuss your issues with the story privately so as not to clog the comments section with a back-and-forth between you and me. I still invite you to have that conversation. But, I would like to point out that our reporter reached out to you on Twitter because it was the only way we knew to contact you for comment on this article. You called Ms. Davis and your response was less than civil. You were given the opportunity to respond to Ms. Brennan's accusations and hung up on the phone. If you would like to speak with Ms. Davis again so that we can add your comments, you are more than welcome to do so. I can be reached by telephone at (703) 388-8302.

Walter

8:42 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

What sort of "thorough research" should have been conducted, Phylicia? And how old are you?

Michael Finch

9:53 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

I find it completely acceptable that someone who is going through a stressful situation like this, being targeted by someone who spews hate and then cries crocodile tears when asked to take responsibility for her vitriol, was "less than civil" when contacted by a news outlet who wants to do a story about it. Phylicia had every right to hang up the phone. She also has every right to mention her critiques of this article publicly, and I don't see how doing so is "clogging the comments section."

If you all decide her concerns aren't legitimate (which seems likely, given how you're speaking to and about her) and the article remains unchanged, at least her comments will be visible by future readers of the article.

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Nayana Davis

10:12 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Michael, the whole point of me contacting Phylicia was to get her side for my article. I would have been remiss in my responsibilities as a reporter if I hadn't. I understand why she may have been upset, but I can't put her perspective into the article if she isn't willing to speak with me. Again, as my colleague said, I am more than happy to speak with her and adjust the article if needed at any time.

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Nic

10:22 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Oh look, here comes a man to tell women that they're "spewing hate" when they recognize penises are not female organs. What kind of world are we living in when the woman acknowledging biology is "spewing hate" and the woman who is threatening to spit on someone is a victim?

Ellie C.

10:12 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

This is amazing. Cathy Brennan is somebody who has caused a lot of trans women serious emotional harm, and has outted them to the point of threatening their livelihood and safety. How has that been ignored, but a comment said by an ally (who is standing up for those who Cathy has harmed) in the heat of the moment become front page news? Absolutely disgusting!!!!!

H. S.

10:24 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

So Adam, everyone else gets to be Ms. So-and-so, except Phylicia?

Kathleen de Vries

10:26 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

When someone assaults or threatens to assault another person, they must, under any circumstances, be reported. Yes, even if that includes 'outing' the person, because NO ONE has free range to make threats against another person--but that has nothing to do with this case in particular.

The misogynistic accusation of 'crocodile tears' by Michael Finch is absolutely disgusting and yet another way of trying to silence women. Cathy Brennan has every reason to be concerned about her safety, as do many women in our current clime, unfortunately.

People so easily forget that the internet is, in fact, the REAL WORLD, and that what they say against others in the heat of the moment is actually a cowardly yet illegal act. Be prepared to deal with consequences if you're willing to stoop to threatening women over the internet.

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Dana LaRocca

1:05 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

I agree Kathleen that these threats “must” be reported. Failing to report it allows it to escalate, potentially endangering the next victim. It is irresponsible not to report it.

Maggie Jay

10:27 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

I was aware of Ms. Brennan's complete lack of respect for trans women and her tendency to attack them and out them publicly, and in this context, Phylicia's tweet makes sense. Ms. Brennan's response to it, much like her response to trans women generally, seems way out of proportion and aimed more at hurting others than protecting herself.

M

10:29 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Unbelievable that this is the story and not how Brennan's ultimate mission in life is to help perpetuate violent and aggressive transmisogyny. Report on that! Phylicia is an amazing advocate for trans women and this is just Brennan again using her privilege as a lawyer to hurt people. It is irresponsible journalism to have such one-sided and spurious information about trans women. Maybe you could have spoken to some trans women that have been very personally victimized by Brennan? All she does all day long is out trans women against their will in order to "protect lesbians." And of course, trans women can be lesbians because trans women are women. Plain and simple. I support you Phylicia!

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Nayana Davis

10:37 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Melissa, if you can point me to any instances of Cathy outing trans women or know of any that will speak to me on the record about this, please email me at nayana.davis@patch.com.

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gbl.deline

11:09 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Males cannot be Females. It's scientifically, biologically, 'logically', impossible. Men can't be women, either.

Man = adult human male.
Woman = adult human female.
Sex = Male and Female
Gender = masculine or feminine presentation, or anywhere inbetween.

I'm very sorry that Mr. Sampson's medical professionals are being untruthful with him. He deserves better, as does any human being. In the meantime, women and their families deserve to be safe.

gbl.deline

10:43 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Not a good idea to threaten anyone, online or in person. But since Mr. Sampson did do that, we can only be grateful. Ms. Brennan has been very understanding, many times asking for no contact, requested the threats stop, given warning more than once in this situation and many others. And, in true legal form, made sure it was all done up front and above board. "Manipulating the law"? It is to laugh.

Nic

10:48 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

I honestly can't believe we're still having this conversation in 2013. There are women who only like other women's bodies. They're called Lesbians. People who are born male do not have women's bodies. Lesbians know this.

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Michael Finch

11:22 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Because of the formatting of the site, I can't reply to your reply to me, so I'll do it here. If penises are "male organs," I'm assuming you believe vaginas are "female organs." If that's the case, then you don't have to worry about me being a man telling women anything, because by your definition, I'm a woman.

Of course, my cis male queer/gay fiance disagrees, in the same way that many lesbians are attracted to, in relationships with, and married to trans women. But go ahead with your "No True Scotsman" argument.

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BethTate

3:39 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

@ Micheal Finch.

If you are a trans woman, you don't have a vagina. You have an inside out penis.
No part of the inside out penis is a vagina. The cells are penile and scrotum tissues.

Phylicia Sampson

11:17 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

The fact the some individuals commenting in this section are mis-gendering me validates the agenda of Brennan and others like her. You guys really wish I was male to support your victimizing approach of women to what you perceive as feminism. I hate to disappoint you guys, I'm actually a cis-identified woman, and your hatred is showing.

With that being said, this article is completely IRRELEVANT, not factual, and not newsworthy.

Tess

12:10 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

I'm glad that a threat of spitting in someone's face made on Twitter is considered worthy of a news story. Thank you, Towson Patch, for keeping the community updated on the important issues.

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gbl.deline

12:47 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

"She runs a controversial blog where she expresses her viewpoints."

I think you nailed it there Nayana. Well done.

Tess

12:26 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

As Autumn has said, this article leaves out the long history of C. Brennan publicly outing trans women for hateful purposes, posting the full names and photos of individual trans women on a site to mock them and their lesbian identities... The list goes on. Regardless, this is a worthless article. I hope that the Towson Patch will focus their energies towards actual news vs. heated Twitter exchanges that result in no real life conflict. "Jimmy threatened to knock over Billy's sand castle. But then he didn't."

Agathe R

12:39 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Lesbians (women born women who love women) put up with abuse from trans and trans-advocates as well as men, every day of the week--for appearing a certain way, for not appearing a certain way, for loving women and devoting themselves to women, for wanting women only spaces, and for simply being born in a woman's body. It would be fantastic if trans and trans allies realized that women aren't going to just be walked over. The article is quite pertinent, and the abuse needs to stop.

Dana LaRocca

12:49 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Cathy Brennan has done nothing to harm transwomen. She holds the view that most of the world holds that persons with penises are male. While I understand that view to be uncomfortable for transwomen it is, after all, the view of most of the world.

It is legitimate to be uncomfortable. It is not legitimate to make threats against folks because they make one feel uncomfortable. As a transwoman I can attest to the fact that being “misgendered” is a fact of life. It happens, it is uncomfortable, and then you move on with the rest of your day.

Sampson’s comment that Brennan “uses the law as a form of manipulation," is just plain silly. Using the law to seek a peace order when someone has threatened to harm you is simply the right thing to do. Calling women “manipulative” comes right out of the mansplaining playbook.

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John Flannery

8:14 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Cathy would say that as a man, you're also mansplaining...and your opinion is biased and therefore worthless.

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Katra Briel

8:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

To: Dana LaRocca (and anyone else who tries to use the argument "I did it because everyone else does it too"), there is a definite difference between a male body and a female body, on that I think we can agree. On the issue of gender and now sex we are about to disagree.

Most people hold that being a Lesbian is a life style choice also, yet Ms Brennan will deny that most vehemently I am sure, just as she holds that MtF Transpersons are male. I offer you this bit of information:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1080889/Scientists-discover-transsexual-gene-makes-men-feel-like-women.html

So now that we all know that just because a majority of people think one thing is true and correct, how are you going to reconcile those ideas now that your assumptions are thrown into chaos by relevant information that substantially disproved your position? I take it you are going to continue to proclaim that the world if flat and not a sphere like structure?

More to follow after this short commercial break!

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Katra Briel

8:46 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I sincerely hope that nobody is taking it that I am attacking their person, I am offering information that they may not have had before of chose to ignore in the past. I also have a question for those who are stuck in the binary mode of gender and sex, please explain your position on what spaces an intersex person may or may not occupy while engaging in intercourse (GET YOUR MIND OUTTA DA GUTTER I NEVER SAID SEXUAL INTERCOURSE - GO LOOK UP THE MEANING) or other activities that are held in women only or men only spaces? Do you have to look “down there” and evaluate what portion of which genitalia they may or may not have and look at their medical records to determine and then judge by your whimsical standard what they are on a Yes/No scale, a Black/White scale, or are you going to recognize the many shades of grey and other colors that we all come in?

I would suggest that if you are one of those people who prefer to exclude someone because of your personal bias, that you are indeed a hater of some sort. I’ll leave it up to you to self-evaluate and take that long hard look in the mirror, because I really do not care how you feel. I will say this though, when you attempt to exclude anyone for such arbitrary and petty reasons the answers are self evident.

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Dana LaRocca

4:40 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@John Flannery. Of course my opinion is biased; that’s why it is called “opinion.”

First as I understand it, Cathy uses the same standard of determining male from female as most of the world uses. She uses it to argue against such things as locking up a bepenised rapist with women because that person decides to become transgender in order to have access to more victims. She uses it to argue against the middle aged person with a penis who wants to shower with young women at a college.

Second, arguing for protecting women from male violence is not the same as the sort of misgendering that takes place at a convenience store or on a bus. That happens to both sexes, regardless of transgender status.

Neither instance is an excuse to threaten another with assault.

Finally, taking out a protective order is an act of kindness. It is much kinder to give a potential assailant fair warning than to wait for the assault to occur and then have the perpetrator locked up. Being locked up while transgender in Baltimore is much more to be feared than a simple piece of paper.

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BethTate

6:06 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

@ Katra Briel

"'As with all genetic association studies it will be important to replicate these findings in other populations"
and
"These defective copies of the AR gene could severely reduce normal testosterone levels, resulting in a more female-like brain. Consequently, male-to-female transsexuals might be expected to have a more feminised brain and are therefore likely to display a female gender identity"

"May", "could", "might be" and "therefore likely" are not terms used for a definitive answer. It even states in the article that it can't explain all MtF trans. Says nothing about FtM either.
If the theory holds true and the fault is low testosterone on the brain, wouldn't the next step be the introduction of testosterone therapy for these individuals?

Ellie C.

1:50 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Folks interested in Cathy's history -- you may want to take a look at this. She was removed from the American Bar Association's Committee on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity last year due to the transphobia she has earned a reputation for:
http://www.change.org/petitions/chair-aba-business-law-section-gonzaga-univ-school-of-law-remove-cathy-brennan-as-liaison-to-aba-s-commission-on-lgbt

There are other really unfortunate things also mentioned in that link.

Agathe R

1:58 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Fantastic--people who make jokes about rape should definitely be called out on it, regardless of their age. How callous and disgusting. As a woman born woman, I thank Cathy for setting this young person straight about what is and what is not appropriate.

Agathe R

2:01 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

In terms of that picture that she made on twitter--that is EXACTLY how so many women feel, yet are too intimidated by MTF male priveledge to say anything. Again, thank you Cathy for speaking up as to how so many women born women feel.

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Katra Briel

9:25 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Agathe R., You said: "intimidated by MTF male priveledge", I have to ask you WHAT PRIVELEDGE? What fracking planet do you live on? While violence against women is outrageous and happens all too often, most women do not have to worry about being murdered simply for living their lives. Women (at least in the US and many parts of the civilized world) enjoy the protections of the law when it comes to employment, housing and many other aspects of daily life while Transpeople are still legally discriminated against on a daily basis. If you are intimidated by ANYONE, male, females, Trans, you need to stop being a victim and stand up for yourself. It also helps that if someone is intimidating you let them know that they are doing so, and hopefully they will stop of their own accord, if they persist, take actions legally available to you.

PS: I would almost be sorry if you feel I am intimidating you, but you pressed a button that once pressed you cannot unpress. If you would like to further discuss this rationally, I am open to such, and I have rarely (if ever) in my life ever been called “Intimidating”. Though I can be passionate at times. Also please look up information on the “Day of Remembrance” to get a sense of how and what many Transgender people have to live with daily, and while life is generally much harder on MtF, it is no cake walk for FtM either….

Phylicia Sampson

3:42 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

I'm a female, and I don't feel that way, nor do I believe that intentionally mis-gendering someone is "a way of life." Just like someone deliberately calling me the n-word isn't a way of life nor something you just shrug off.

Jen Anderson

4:21 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

This has been debated to death. Here is what it boils down to. In every segment and sub segment of society there are a lot of good people and a few bad people. There have been a very few incidences where so-called transwomen (it is more likely they are crossdressers) who have disrespected women's spaces. Every transwoman I have ever met has been a feminist. They experience first hand the difference in living as a male vs female and they are giving up their 'male priveledge' to live their lives as authentically as possible. Usually at a great risk to their personal safety. These women have the hearts of lionesses and if given the opportunity (by this minority in the lesbian community) would prove themselves as the fiercest of feminist allies. Phylicia, I support you! I also support the ladies who were at some point hurt by a man or men and it destroyed their trust. I do not say this to patronize you. I have lived through it myself. I pray for your healing and hope that one day you can, at the very least, look past the physical exterior of a transwomen and see the loving and compassionate heart of a woman who is a reflection of you.

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Katra Briel

9:07 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Hi Jen! Um I assume that is you! And you know who I mean....but then again how many "Jens" could there possibly be out there? Um and it if isn't the you I think it is, well Hello anyway?!

Zachary Martinez

4:53 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Cathy Brennan is a hater. That's all that needs to be said.

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Rational woman

6:48 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Knowing that a penis is a male organ does not make someone a 'hater'. When are people going to start using their brain with regard to this issue?

Jen Anderson

5:47 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Consider, Zachary, what events in a persons life might lead to their intolerance. Statements like yours can only perpetuate uneasy feelings on both sides. Be considerate and constructive. Basic, initial, emotional reactions left unchecked are what lead to the very situations these two women are dealing with.

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Zachary Martinez

1:31 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Would you respond with "Consider, Zachary, what events in a persons life might lead to their intolerance..." in defense of a misogynist? in defense of a homophobe? in defense of a white supremacist? Transphobia is as bad as any of these other forms of hatred. Cathy Brennan is a virulent transphobe. She's ultimately no different than virulent misogynists, virulent homophobes, virulent white supremacists

Needaname

7:25 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

In Ms Sampson's heart and mind she is a female. Let it be. I think she has been very brave to put herself out here.

M C

10:14 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

"I'm very sorry that Mr. Sampson's medical professionals are being untruthful with him. He deserves better, as does any human being."
ignoring for a second that Ms Sampson is not a transwoman and your assumptions are wrong, why would you deliberately call someone by pronouns you know they do not go by? regardless of your views on the trans* identity, this is complete disrespect for someone you do not know, and that shows a lack of common decency. gbl.deline's comments are absolutely uncalled for.

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Kate Huh

7:20 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

gbl.deline also commented "It is to laugh." A sentence Ms. Brennan often uses in her own writings. Perhaps those comments by gbl.deline were actually made by Ms. Brennan? If so, she gives the readers a good example of her tone and style.

CP

10:36 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

This is all so childish.

M. Sullivan

10:46 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Interesting that, although Brennan believes that Sampson is a male, she refers to her as a "she" in her quote for this article. Also interesting that she would probably refer to those who would consider homosexuality as unnatural as "bigots", yet she feels free to voice her opinions regarding transgendered people. I guess it all depends on your agenda.

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Sanchez

3:31 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

" Also interesting that she would probably refer to those who would consider homosexuality as unnatural as "bigots", yet she feels free to voice her opinions regarding transgendered people. I guess it all depends on your agenda."

Excellent point.

Kelli Anne Busey

10:49 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Cathy Brennan has honed the art of provocation and victimisation to a art. If you allow her to get under your skin she will use that moment to goad you into to replying in anger. She has done it time and time again.
I believe that is the bases of Phylicia Sampson accusation that this article lacks creditability. It would only have taken seconds for the author to discover this information and present the article in a fair and unbiased manner. Since that wasn't done let me supply you with a couple of examples of Brennan dealing a stacked deck and playing the victim card. I published these on planetransgender.
"RadFem Cathey Brennan, Lawyer, Maliciously OUTS 17 Y.O. Transgender Youth To His High School"
In that case she successfully goaded a minor into making a ill advised comment. After I published about this she removed the post but not before I transferred it to Scribe. The youngster later apologized to Brennan who did not to my knowledge bother to acknowledge it.
In this instance she tried to provoke a University professor.
"Cathy Brennan's sorry about you dick"
Adam Bednar if you are going to claim to be a journalist publishing unbiased news you need to do some basic research before publishing.

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Linda H.

11:26 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

The student made CONTINUOUSLY HARASSING AND EXTREMELY DISTURBING emails/comments about WOMEN and RAPE. The school was only contacted to assist in that the IP was coming through the school.

But beside that... YOU, Kelli Anne Busey are NOW stating that a woman is responsible for violent rape threats against her and that the "victim" in this is someone who is Tg because they were "goaded" into it.

YUP... no **spin** in that AT ALL. Good gawd.

gbl.deline

11:42 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

All very subjective and not how I viewed it. I saw Cathy being rational, calm, and asking the staker/harasser to stop. Even after she wrote the letters posted for everyone to read asking the school to intervene the harasser continued to goad Brennan on Brennan's site, taunting Brennan and bragging that the harasser's father who worked in the council office, would protect the harasser. The harasser then posted "I give no f*cks" to Brennan, who did not respond. We all read it as it was going on. Brennan "outed" no-one. If you threaten someone, if you do not stop when asked, if you ignore being warned, expect to experience consequences.

Kelli Anne Busey

12:08 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Cathy Brennan Maliciously with ill intent outed this trans teen to his school.
From the email Brennan sent to his high school:

To enquiries@leiston-high.org.
Subject: Rufus Rufushy Ulrik

Good morning My name is Cathy Brennan, and I am a lesbian feminist activist in Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A. Recently, a student at your school Rufus Ulrik (formerly Cara), has been emailing me and contacting me via social media.

Outing anyone within the LGBT community is the lowest thing a person can do. I condemn Rufus's youthful ignorant response to brennan's vitriol but his response must be taken in context. He made it clear in his apology his reply was shaped by social perceptions. He became educated as to the hurt rape humor can cause and apologized for it.
Brennan had played her victim card but i the process let her hand be expossed. Shame on you Brennan. He's a child for crying out loud. Do you have no compassion for children? Why not act like an adult?

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Sanchez

3:37 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

"Outing anyone within the LGBT community is the lowest thing a person can do"

Does that includes the homosexual rights groups that "out" homosexuals as a club to beat them with and who they disagree with?

Groups like Lavender? "Lavender 'outs' Lutheran pastor "
http://www.minnpost.com/braublog/2010/06/lavender-outs-lutheran-pastor-crashing-confidential-support-group

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BethTate

3:49 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

People who threaten rape and murder shouldn't have the authorities notified? Huh? Because they are children? The fact that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were teenagers didn't stop them. Jamie Bulger was murdered by two ten year olds. Threats should be taken seriously. Cathy gets rape threats and threats against her children. How is she able to determine a real from a posed threat? Wait for something to happen?

Agathe R

12:24 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

This is acting like an adult, and it's setting young adults straight on what is appropriate, what is not appropriate, calling them out on their poor behavior. "Brennan playing the victim card"--wow, you sound just like one of those politicians from the mid-west blaming women for their own rapes. Amazing.

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Katra Briel

9:18 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

"Setting young adults straight" is fine, but outing them in the process is not. THAT IS THE POINT. How about setting Ms Brennan straight, since by all accounts she is a passive aggressive person who enjoys in instigating incidents and dramas so she may garner attention for herself while playing victim. I'm sorry she seems to like to throw gas on her own home then light the fire by the hand of her victims so she can proclaim her innocence and victimhood while collecting the insurance for burning down her own home...

That is a (non religious) “parable” – a story designed to show the actions of situation by a comparison as opposed to any real and actual events. I put that in there because by all accounts, Ms Brennan being a lawyer would attempt to sue me for many reasons if I were to indicate that those events were in any way real ad Arson and insurance fraud are indeed real crimes of which I am NOT accusing her or anyone…. And no I am not a lawyer.

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BethTate

3:53 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

@ Katra,

Throw gas on her own house and light the fire? So by expressing a dissenting opinion she was asking for it? You are sick.

If you threaten violence against someone it is your own fault if you are found out. We are not barbarians. We have the power of speech. You can say "I disagree and here's why..."
Not "I'm going to kill you bitch".

Agathe R

12:26 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

compassion for children--sure, compassion for children who threaten and joke about rape--no one should have compassion for that abuse. Women who stand up for themselves should be applauded

jimiknowsbest

2:05 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

The whole thing is sick! Boys are boys and girls are girls! Being gay is a disease that needs medical help! Where did the world's morals go!

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Katra Briel

9:22 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I really think you need to change your name to "jimknowsnothing and is a religiousrightwingnut" Just because you think you know anything about something that you are obviously unqualified to discuss does not make it correct. So go back to your book written by stone age people while baking their brains in the desert sun and look for all the answers you want, no matter how many time you proclaim the earth is only 6k years old, that does not make it so.

jimiknowsbest

2:07 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Being gay is a disease that needs medical help! Where did the world's morals go!

Sanchez

3:26 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Only the Creator can make you a man or a woman. No doctor could ever do that.

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FIFA_archived

4:09 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

You assume every fetus is determined by your Creator. You're nuts Joe.

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FIFA_archived

4:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Fastest, luckiest swimmer wins.

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Katra Briel

8:44 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

You are correct, and according to science and biology when my mother was pregnant with me and her body sent signals to mine and infused me with one set of hormones at the time that triggers brain development and gender and at the other time during pregnancy when hormones are sent to trigger body development and sex with the opposite hormones, I was developed and at that moment became a transsexual. So by your definition, my Mom and Dad made me this way.

PS: if you think otherwise, have your creator come talk to me. When it fails to show that should be proof enough that you are delusional by believing in little old men living in the sky controlling your life.

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Sanchez

10:23 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

"you are delusional by believing in little old men living in the sky controlling your life."

What an arrogant terribly bigoted comment. The vast majority of the worlds population believe in some creator Katra. I would never slur or insult you for not having any belief in a higher power and you should not slur anyone who does. That is as ignorant as it gets. Just as you would not want me to call you defective for being who you are.

Far too many of those like you are the LEAST tolerant and most bigoted people around and your comment has shown that.

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BethTate

3:55 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

@ Katra

Brain sex hypothesis and 'hormone wash' theories of transexualism are not peer reviewed scientific studies. There are a number of issues with the way in which these studies were designed and carried out.

Nic

3:33 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I'm not sure rufus/cara ulrik would appreciate being called a child. Either way, children and young people need to be taught when they are behaving badly. Cathy informed the relevant authority figures in order to ensure that happened. That is responsible adulthood.

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Dana LaRocca

4:45 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

The young person was making comments that clearly indicated that he or she was a threat to oneself or others. Rufus had made comments about committing suicide. As a parent, I am proud of people like Cathy Brennan who go the extra mile to protect others.

moe green

5:50 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Want is this about? Arguing about who is the most queer?

Agathe R

6:11 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Nic--under 18=child in legal terms. And yes, Cathy did in the right and best thing, by all means. We need more people like Cathy!

Rika Virgo

10:37 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I'm sick and tired of people, whoever they may be, telling transwomen who and what they are and are not. This belief that external urogenital organs are the be all and end all of sex determinants is leftover medieval ignorance.
Political constructs do not negate trans biology. Fact check: The seat of core gender identity (trans and non-trans) is in the neural networks of brain anatomy.
And as for spitting, in the real world, as far as the police are concerned, it's not as horrifically egregious as some of you out in cyberspace want to make it out to be. I've been spat in the face more than once, and the police refused to even make a report, even though I was standing there with gobs of it on my face. The police even helped the 'spitter' come up with a BS story that he (the spitter) merely and innocently slobbered a lot when he talked--even though he never spoke to me and I had a witness! Perhaps it matters who is doing the spitting and who is being spat on, and personal prejudice? Could it be that the police were prejudiced against me because I am 'trans'? Duh!

Rika V

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Trans Activist

5:41 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

It appears some on this thread have failed Social Justice 101. So let me make it crystal clear: cis lesbian bigots=Oppressor. Trans women=Victims. Got it? There is now a 40-year history of cis lesbians perpetrating oppression against trans women through hate, threats of violence, smear campaigns and bullying. The Internet part is just the latest incarnation. They are absolutely wretched people who bring on the responses they get. Luckily, they are a small fringe band of extremist hate-mongering ideologues who are dying off. Keep bringing it "womyn" because trans folks, our allies and the "funfems" you decry will fight you EVERY STEP of the way. You are losing and will eventually be lost to the dustbins of hate-group history.

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BethTate

6:13 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

@TransActivist

Nice trolling there troll.
Hahaha!
If you're not a troll, you are wrong. If you think for a second that we're the looney fringe then you need to get out more. The rest of the world will see Colleen Francis type trans going into female bathrooms and they'll lose it. Nobody is buying your lies. You think Mr and Ms John Q Public are going to want men in female change rooms. Get real.
Even medical establishments are waking up to this.

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John Flannery

6:12 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

@ Dana LaRocca

You Wrote:

"@John Flannery. Of course my opinion is biased; that’s why it is called “opinion.”

First as I understand it, Cathy uses the same standard of determining male from female as most of the world uses. She uses it to argue against such things as locking up a bepenised rapist with women because that person decides to become transgender in order to have access to more victims. She uses it to argue against the middle aged person with a penis who wants to shower with young women at a college."

Yes Dana, and most of the world uses a standard of determining whether LGBT people deserve basic rights that would have us barred from working with children and in some countries, executed. So you see, popular opinion means nothing. And I'd love to see some data on the number of people who "decide" to "become" trans to have access to women to harm them. You do realize that's the same argument used by those who would prefer that you were banned from using public restrooms that match your gender presentation, right?

I like you Dana, but wake up. Your "friend" doesn't see you as a an equal or even as authentic. So much in fact she'd like to see your right limited by law. I just don't see how you can keep company with such a person. Obviously that's your business...but please don't make excuses for her hateful behavior.

JF

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BethTate

6:19 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

@ John Flannery

No one on the dreaded 'radfem' side wants to take away trans rights. They want protections put in place so that women don't have their rights trampled on.
Google Colleen Francis. A man who identifies as a woman but still has a penis went into a female locker room and exposed himself. The females felt uncomfortable with him there and asked if he could be removed. They were told that because of Colleen's 'female identity' he had a right to be there. The females now change in a make shift locker room so Colleen and his 'womanly' penis can change in the female locker room.
There are pages and pages of news articles about men sneaking into female locker and bathrooms for voyeurism. No one said trans are more likely to perpetuate these crimes. How are females to know trans from weirdo who wants to put cameras under the toilet seat? What is the criteria for female if it's not chromosomes or reproductive organs? When does a 'gender identity' trump a biological reality?

Rational woman

7:06 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Cathy Brennan has never hatefully outed anyone, nor has she posted photos that weren't already publicly available on the internet. Also, the letter which she CO-WROTE was not calling for the trans community to have no rights or protection. Has anyone actually read it?
Saying that a penis is a male organ is fact. It is not hate speech. Anyone who says otherwise is deluded. If you have a penis then you are not female. You may 'identify as a woman', but you do not have a vagina, thus you are not female. Sex and gender are entirely different things and gender is nothing but a social construct used to oppress FAAB women. Pretty basic stuff really.
Also, I've watched the video, and the way Cathy Brennan was approached at the NYC Dyke March was abhorrent. If we're going to get into all this hipster Tumblr talk, then maybe the 'MTF' trans folk that surrounded her should realise that their male privilege was showing.
Cathy Brennan has done a lot for women and the fact that people consistently threaten her and try to shame her on the internet makes me feel sick. FAAB trans allies should hang their heads in shame.

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Dana LaRocca

3:59 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

It is true, Rational Woman, that “Cathy Brennan has done a lot for women.” Similarly, it is true that Cathy was one of the primary organizers of the Rally for Chrissy Polis (a transwoman) a day after Easter in 2011, and one of the very few advocates for a man dressed as woman who was murdered earlier this year.

In the recent issue of Baltimore Outloud, the Reverend Meredith Moise wrote of the latter incident saying, “I found it ironic that when DeSean Bowman, a young Black queer person, was killed in East Baltimore in June 2012, an employee of an LGBT organization wanted activists to prove that DeSean was LGBT although this was known in the community. In the midst of this, the employee wrote, "We just don't know. He could've been a straight man who lost a bet and had to wear a dress!" This type of attitude must end. Knowing the lives of young Black men in East Baltimore, we know that is at the very least an ignorant statement and at the very most, blatantly racist and horribly wrong.”

At the time of that murder, I was the editor of that newspaper. Some of the most powerful voices in our community were involved in bringing public attention to the tragedy. Among them were Cathy Brennan, Reverend Moise, and Krush Kent of the Guardian Angels. The usual gay voices were absent. ALL of the self-proclaimed transgender advocates were silent.

Linda H.

11:30 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

The BIGGEST lie that keeps being perpetuated in acknowledging biology exists... is that it is labeled "hate speech". That it promotes/activates "death/violence and abuse of male to transgender". This is a LIE.

Women acknowledging biology does NOT "activate" male violence. Males being DENIED control over women activates violence, rage, abuse and unhealthy/irrational reactions.

Tg activists and allies want to control women for the sake of men.... when men are the perpetrators of the violence.

Seamus Smith

10:18 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Cathy Brennan is a hero to true feminists everywhere. She is honest, intelligent, courageous and has been targeted in terrible ways by people with serious, serious mental health issues. She is right to use restraining orders or whatever tools are available to her to protect herself and her family from people with anger and reality issues. We all know that some percentage of people who have serious and untreated mental health issues can become dangerous to others, especially if they tend towards rage at anyone who disagrees with their delusions or who challenges their (limited) world view. It's important for the public and law enforcement to know that feminist women are regularly under verbal attack and experience dreadful threats of violence from a sub-set of hyper-radicalized "trans" activists.

BlackSwan

6:06 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

@Linda H. Homosexuality is also against biology, yet it is considered bigotry if you suggest it, and "activates" lesbian violent tendencies--what a crock of biological-essentialism. Goose and Gander blubber. Political spin at its best.

No one here can answer: How does giving transgender people the equality they deserve negate exising laws against rape and violence towards women?

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Linda H.

2:11 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

BalckSwan Quote :: "Homosexuality is also against biology, yet it is considered bigotry..."

False. Homophobia is based on misogyny.

** That acts of male on male sex is LABELED an "abomination" due to males taking a "female" receiving sexual position.

** Homophobia is based on misogyny due to the fact that females sexually refuse men and are not procreating as IT is their "patriarchal duty" as females to produce children.

** Homophobia is based on misogyny in controlling SEX.

Sex is real. Biology is real.
There is absolutely NOTHING bigoted IN acknowledging these two matters of FACT.

The OP is about controlling a female lesbian w/acts of physical aggression who will not subjugate into IGNORING biology. THIS again is misogyny. Can you answer why you insist on ALSO ignoring this AND making it something else?

BlackSwan

4:45 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

@Linda H.

False Cause and Effect: Simply put relying on the naturalist fallacy to invalidate trans identities by derivation invalidates homosexual identities.

False Assumption: The hypocrisies are clear, “** That acts of male on male sex is LABELED an “abomination” due to the males taking a “female” receiving sex position.” Gay men will take issue with you that not all of them like penetrative sex.

Pleasurable sex is giver and receive; not necessarily male as giver and female as receiver.
Biological sex must occur with male "giving" sperm to the female "receiver.". Biological Sex is the primary function of sex for the survival of the species.

Human beings are sexual dimorphic in nature not to invalidate the hedro or homo realities; one takes on the dominate and other subordinate and/or giver and receiver roles. Your Intellectual Materialism: To have horizontal equity in your reasoning you must state, “**The acts of female on female sex is LABELED an “abomination” due to the female taking “male” penetrative (I.E. strap-on) sex position.” You can’t argue to the absurd; condemn the masculine or “giver” role then when a lesbian takes it on creates no relevant example to your position, unless you apply game theory.

False. SEX IS BIOLOGY and propagation of the species is a function of the sexual mechanism. Notwithstanding its dual role as a “pleasurable” act, its primary function is survival of the species.

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BlackSwan

4:54 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

The OP invalidates Trans Identities. The only supporters of Mary Daly/Janise Raymond RadFem BS that Trans is just mutilation, abomination and misogyny when its actually subtext misandry in much of feminist criticism and curriculum. Currently Feminists take an apologist position, “I’m a feminist, … BUT I don’t hate men” because of the historical curriculum. See SCUM Manifesto.

Fact of the political PR mechanism of this OP: Cathy Brennan is a political opportunist, using several sleazy tactics and the Klan Fallacy to demonize the transgender community. As did the KKK to blacks during Jim Crow. Her favorite in this case are: Bait, goad, Insult and intimidate her mark, her cronies in waiting recording the response, spin the response as the "mark is being a violent male", barnacle the RadFem agenda that all transgender women are violent men, then claim a false victim narrative, "I'm afraid for my life." The press has used these images to hijack the transsexual/transgender narrative for the last 60 years--its part of the political plan to keep us from full equality.

Brennan is a vexatious litigator, using the law as a club to bully the ignorant who didn't take basic civics; "Peace Order" or "Restraining Order" to stigmatize the trans mark. This is evidenced when she brags about these carefully planned and calculated events on her Blogs, demonizing the entire transgender community every chance one of these orchestrated events happen.

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