State Delays Towson University Project Because of Athletics Decision
Comptroller Peter Franchot and Gov. Martin O'Malley want President Maravene Loeschke to "come down here" to explain how the men's baseball and soccer teams were eliminated.
The cancellation of two Towson University athletic programs has resulted in the delay of a construction contract related to a university building in Harford County.
The state Board of Public Works Wednesday delayed a decision on the contract until university President Maravene S. Loeschke can explain events surrounding the cancellation earlier this month of the men's baseball and soccer programs.
"I'm pretty disgusted by what Towson [University] has done with recent events concerning their athletic teams," Comptroller Peter Franchot said, referring to what he called the "bizarre decision" to disband the teams.
Loeschke and university Athletic Director Mike Waddell said earlier this month that the decision to end the men's soccer and baseball programs was necessitated by budgetary constraints and a requirement to comply with federal Title IX laws.
Franchot said he didn't believe the rationale provided by Loeschke.
"I don't think any sensible person truly believes there is a fiscal justification for the elimination of these storied, successful athletic programs," Franchot said, adding that he was particularly troubled by reports of how Loeschke chose to inform the students and staff.
Members of the teams were given "less than an hour notice" and were told in a meeting that "lasted only a few minutes and no questions were taken," Franchot said.
"The coaches themselves were being pink-slipped in another room and not allowed to be in the room with their players to be a source of comfort, guidance and perspective," Franchot said.
"In what might be the the most insulting gesture of disrespect that I've seen in my 27 years of public life, the president of the university arrived at the meeting in the company of uniformed police officers," Franchot said. "Presumably as protection from acts of violent retaliation by these aggrieved team members as if they were a band of violent thugs and not dedicated, disciplined men and women representing their school proudly in NCAA competition."
The comptroller called the decision and the way it was handled "a severe black mark on the record of an otherwise exceptional university."
Gov. Martin O'Malley joined Franchot in delaying a decision on the contract until Loeschke could explain the decision.
"If all of that went down like that, it's pretty outrageous," O'Malley said, adding that he wanted Loeschke to "come down here and tell us if that's how they really told those kids."
Neil B
1:42 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You can't have your cake and eat it too! This is the down side to Title 9. This is what happens when there are too many rules.
BMore
3:12 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Except that Towson was always Title IX compliant and the Title IX issues were pointed out to be nonsense by several Towson coaches. Mysteriously before the meeting the official participation numbers were changed to show a much larger disparity in participation between male and femal student athletes.
Sue Diffenderffer
8:33 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Has nothing to do with Title IX and everything to do with mismanagement by the AD.
JBD
10:43 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Yes, blame it on Title 9 rather than the truth - overextending football, lacrosse, and basketball budgets in an attempt to get Towson's name in the sports news like College Park.
Ed
12:03 am on Saturday, March 23, 2013
I'll take it back further -- nearly 30 years ago with the misguided move to Division I, followed in short order by UMBC, Loyola, Morgan, Coppin, UMES, Mount Saint Mary's... the number of track, cross county, wrestling, tennis, golf and swimming teams that had to be cut over the years to pay for that move has been staggering. And its not like any of those school make any waves nationally in any sport except lacrosse. You could count the number of NCAA tournament games won by those school in ALL sports (except lacrosse) on one hand -- one men's basketball game by Coppin, a smattering of soccer, volleyball, baseball and maybe field hockey victories in nearly 30 years across a wide spectrum of sports. And not too many individual top-10 national finishers in the individual sports, either. Oh, for the good old days of Division II and the Mason-Dixon Conference.
AnsonW
9:02 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
M. Sullivan
1:55 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Sounds to me like Loeschke could use some education in personnel management. I would think that this knowledge would be very important for someone elevated to her position. IMHO
Eric C
1:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The state has nothing better to do but worry about two Towson sports programs that the students didn't even care about.... I was a student four years and went to two baseball games. No more than 50 people were ever at these games and most were friends and family of the players. I feel bad for the players on these teams but their scholarships are still being honored while I have loans to pay off so my sympathy only goes so far.
Jeff Backlund
1:23 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
Hey Eric, I'll bet if they cut your Botany or Sewing class you'd be pissed.....
AnsonW
9:01 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
259 fans per game at Baseball last year and 301 so far per game this year.
Neil B
1:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The teams knew for weeks they could be disbanded. They saved the basketball team so someone else had to go.
CP
2:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Title 9 is a joke. Nice job libs!
Steve
4:44 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Title IX was signed into law by Richard Nixon. Hardly a Lib.
Phil Dirt
2:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Sounds to me like O'Malley got wind of the fact that Harford County was going to have some of their tax money flow back from Annapolis and he had to find some way to stop it. There's no way that he would ever let the opposition be helped until they change their anti-progressive mindset.
Killi Macklin
2:47 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Really? That's where you take this? O'Malley trying to vindictively hurt HarCo?
Your tin foil cap might be on a bit too tight.
The money isn't being stopped. It's been held up until Loeschke explains herself. It has nothing to do with a vendetta against conservatives. O'Malley already won. HarCo will get the money after they have their meeting. There isn't any threat to that.
Tim
3:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
This place is tin foil hat central.
Scott D.
2:29 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I work at TU. This was not a surprise. We heard that this could happen back in October.
Doug Reaves
2:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Title. IX is the cause and the alternative isn't reasonably funded (adding womens sports to offset the mens scholarships) TU is 60/40 female and has to have scholarships reflecting that (absurd IMO) The options to add womens rugby and "sand volleyball" were going to cost $3mil-6mil over five years....talk about fiscally irresponsible! This is why the state is in the budget situation that they are in....they don't look ahead at the costs of decisions
ZIG
2:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Another O'malley publicity stunt.
Neil B
2:58 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Agreed. Everyone knew all year there were teams that were going to get disbanded at the end of the year. They evidently saved the basketball team so it was soccer and baseball instead.
Mark B
3:01 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Maravene Loeschke's no stranger to bad management tactics. And, for a good time, you guys should check out where she got her "Ph D". *grin*
BMore
3:15 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
No one "saved" basketball. Basketball was never, and would never be on the chopping block. The reason there was even a fiscal issue was from idiotic spending that turned a $450,000 surplus into a $1,000,000+ deficit in only 3 years. There are literally no good business reasons to cut the two sports.
Neil B
3:19 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
So those billboards around town that said come watch the final season of Towson basketball were lying?
Cheri Bond Pegues
3:37 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I agree completely! The books were cooked and numbers changed for the president and AD's agenda. Coach Mike Gottlieb is a remarkable man who has poured his whole life, heart, and soul into TU and his baseball team. The way they were treated was despicable and the truth will come out.
Killi Macklin
3:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Neil: It was the final season at the Towson Center. They open a new arena next year.
I thought Maryland scored well in reading comprehension?
Neil B
3:47 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You are right.
AnsonW
8:59 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
Steve Misewich
3:20 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You're all wrong. They plan on giving the maximum amount of scholarships for all of the remaining sports. Men and women. These teams have been competitive without the max for years and many D1 schools don't offer the max. They could have spread the wealth and saved both programs easily. This is not a Title IX issue. The Towson AD and President feel its more important to spend all there money specifically on basketball, football, and lacrosse and become a dominant force instead of staying competitive like they already are and save these 2 programs. They aren't saving a penny. As a matter of fact they plan on increasing the budget consistently over the next couple of years. Both the soccer and baseball coaches said they could exist with less scholarships and some big Towson donors were told to keep your money and the President refuses to listen to the other options that they wanted to present. It's ironic that Towson is part of a democratic state that typically wants to "spread the wealth" to all government programs and help everyone as best as they can, yet the decision makers at Towson are doing the exact opposite. Instead of having competitive teams across the board that are true student athletes, they want to dump more money into the chosen few and pretend they're an SEC powerhouse. Since there is such an emphasis being placed on winning at all costs, it won't be long before Towson's 1st scandal.
CP
3:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
So she's lying about title 9?
Cheri Bond Pegues
3:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Indeed, Steve, you are speaking the truth.
Towson Alumni
4:34 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Loeschke, her AD, and who ever else thinks that Towson University can somehow regularly compete with the powerhouse conferences in football and basketball are living in Fantasyland.
Michael Smith
2:24 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Maybe if they cut back the Football roster from 95 maybe they could have saved a sport or two
AnsonW
8:59 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
So your answer is to fund every program equally, regardless of the sport? Where have the competitive teams been at Towson over the last 10 years?
Towson Alumni
4:07 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Soccer and Baseball represent Only 3% of the athletic budget. Basketball was Never going to be cut. Title IX has been proven to be a Total Lie by Towson to justify cutting these hallmark programs. The AD irresponsibly increased spending by 2.5 Million in less than 3 years and Loeschke has shunned all efforts to save the 2 programs, that have nothing to do with the spending spree of the AD. These programs have the highest grade point averages of all the men's sports at Towson (except for golf's 9 player roster). These programs define the term student athlete.
Taskforce head
9:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Annapolis will fix everything! There are 18,000 students, 63% are women and Tuition hasn't increased in 2 years. Towson University's current leadership had to make tough decisions. Yes, it could have been handled better, everyone involved would agree! Current TU leadership inherited these problems that have been effecting TU Athletics for the last 10 years. Go check out the softball field if title IX isn't an issue
Towson Alumni
11:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Annapolis can hold Loeschke and the AD accountable for these decisions and their continued disregard of the facts. What Current leadership inherited was a 400k plus surplus just a couple yrs ago and turned it into a 1.3 Milliion dollar deficit. Towson has never had a Title IX violation, the initial numbers didn't calculate in girls track and they furthered massaged the numbers later in an attempt to hide the truth. The Taskforce's "recommendation" was Never in doubt, stacked by the admin. from the start with AD Waddell disciples and a token baseball and soccer rep. This is All about continuing to funnel more money to the anointed sports and anyone that states otherwise is ignorant of the facts or not telling the truth.
Michael Smith
2:46 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Softball - I would not even go there. I know of some very good players from the Metro area who will not even look at TU due the overwelming use of out of state players. There are only two girls on the 22 person roster from Maryland. I know that Athletic funding does not come from the State, but wouldn't you think that a state school would make an effort to populate their teams with in-state talent?
Hadouken52
4:17 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Title IX has nothing to do with this, Waddell and the Fascist Loeschke had to make room for their 2.5-3% raises. Not to mention Waddell turned a surplus into a deficit in no time flat. Soooo disgusted to be TU Alum right now Between the Nazis on campus and the ones in the front office, sh!t has got to change.
Patrick
4:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The primary purpose of Towson University is scholarship. Sports are EXTRACURRICULAR activities. There certainly not this kind of outrage when an Arts program is cut and/or eliminated. What's good for the goose.
Killi Macklin
4:35 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
But when was the last time a sculptor hit a game-winning home run? : /
Robert Frisch
4:29 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Anybody know what the length of employment contract is for the president? That is how long Towson will have to live with her unless the Board offers to buy out her contract at a hefty price.
BMore
4:31 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Steve said it much more aggressively than I would have, but yes. He's exactly right. There are no real budget concerns with maintaining the two sports, and there are no Title IX constraints. The bigger issue is spending and that spending not meeting the revenue projections that rationalized that spending. As such, the two channeled the time-tested "men's non-revenue" sport argument to rationalize a terrible decision.
If Maryland had C-Span, this would be must see TV because the AD and president are going to be exposed for the con artistry they've perpetrated.
AnsonW
8:55 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
You are wrong. The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
Kitty
4:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Killi Macklin I rest my point. A gallery opening or opening night for a play or musical is the theatrical equivalent. Just because someone doesn't hit a home run or score a touchdown, that should not be overshadowed JUST because it is not athletics. I would bet money that winning a Tony award or Academy Award feels pretty much the same way as hitting a game-winning home run. Broaden your horizons.
Kitty
4:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Dr Loeschke is a very accomplished and successful Educational Administrator. I find it fascinating that the same people commenting about the "liberal agenda" and continue to complain about budget shortfalls are the same ones who do not want to pay any more taxes. Different when it hits home eh?
grd887
6:01 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I also fully support the arts. However, in the unlikely event (given Loeschke is a Towson theatre grad) the theatre dept. had been axed under false pretenses as these 2 programs have been, due to reckless administration spending, I'm sure you and others would understandably be calling Loeschke out of her bunker for further explanation as well.
Kurt Wertz
10:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Yes she is LOL ! Her last job she hand a vote of no confidence, by the faculty of Mansfield University. Accomplished and successful at what?
Kitty
4:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Peter Franchot complains that this is a "black mark" on Towson's record. He clearly forgot about President Perkins reckless spending when he bought ( with tax dollars no less ) a $850,000 mansion in Guilford only to turn around and spend another $800,000 in renovations. He ran over budget by $360,000 dollars. All paid for by University funds. He had to step down or be fired. Let's not forget his golden parachute. Reality check people.
Mike C
5:19 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
In response to all the comments saying that these teams were aware of the coming cuts months prior to the decision actually being made, it's not the fact that they were cut that bothers most people. It's how the president handled the situation. I am a student at Towson and know some of the baseball players. They were notified of the meeting only 15 minutes before it happened. Many of the players were in class and were not even able to attend it. And showing up with a security detail? Do I even need to explain how unnecessary that is? This shows that she expects no more from these young men who represented the university than she would of common criminals. And how about this for a little fun fact. When Frank Olszewski, the head soccer coach who has been coaching at Towson since 1982, received his HR packet, it had his name spelled wrong. The lack of respect shown to this man after thirty years of coaching astounds me. And she has the nerve to claim financial reasons for the teams being cut. Last year our basketball team won only a single game, and yet the school felt the need to build a brand new, multi-million dollar arena for the team that set the NCAA record for longest losing streak. And maybe the school didn't need to resurface the astro turf football field after three years when it only needs to be done every ten. I have never been more ashamed to call myself a Towson Tiger after everything that happened regarding the baseball and soccer teams. That is all.
AnsonW
8:54 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
The new arena had been in the works for the last decade so it clearly was not a project that was planned after the basketball season last year. The Unitas Stadium turf had a warranty issue and the field was replaced with the new version of the turf, at a greatly reduced cost with a full new warranty as opposed to the company putting in the failed product again and keeping the old warranty intact. Why put back the same failed product without a full warranty? That would be dumb. The Unitas Stadium field is also used by field hockey, mens lacrosse, women's lacrosse, football, club sports, intermurals, band competitions, high school games, etc... and the facility is paid for by the University, not athletics.
Steve Misewich
6:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Patrick and Kitty, your points are valid and the people that love the theatre should fight if their program was being cut. With that being said, if Towson cut baseball and men's soccer because there were budget issues, I would be sad but not outraged. The money that was being spent on baseball and soccer is just going to be dumped into football, basketball and lacrosse. They are INCREASING the budget. Not cutting it. Then they are using even more money to increase the amount of scholarships on all of the teams, men and women. They have decided that winning all the time is more important than supporting all of their teams that have been a part of the school for close to 100 years. It goes against everything that college should be about.
grd887
6:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
So true Steve....
AnsonW
8:49 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
You are wrong. The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
Diane David
6:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Thank you, Mr. Franchot and Governor O'Malley for holding Dr. Loeschke accountable for this decision and the horrible way things were handled. As a retired employee of Towson University, I was always proud of the University..... it is no longer the same Towson that I knew! The treatment of the coaches and the athletes is atrocious.
Cheri Bond Pegues
8:55 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I fully agree with you, Diane. I'm grateful that Mr. Franchot and Governor O'Malley are taking a closer look at what occurred here. The way the players and coaches were treated was truly unconscionable and should not be tolerated.
Bored
7:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Let's just cut through all of the b.s. 1: This had nothing to do with Title IX and everything to do with an athletice department that can't manage a budget. Waste! 2: Baseball was picked becuse the field sits on valuable land. Soccer was played in the existing stadium. Watch how fast something gets built on that baseball field. 3: Towson at HCC is being held up because the voters in theis County voted against O'Bama and against O'Malley's amendments in 2012. It's the revenge of the O and I am not talking Orioles. Is that clear enough.
avattowson
10:47 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Soccer is NOT played in the stadium.....it is played on another plot of land across from the stadium next to the arena.
CB9678
9:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
My question is why this was not done to the flagship institution who pulled the same crap!!!!
Caelin
10:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I completely agree
AnsonW
8:48 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
True double standard
Brian King
10:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Two people in big positions of power at the states second largest university acted in a way that is disgusting, disrespectful and just improper. If you support athletics of this nature or not is not the point. As tax payers we should all expect much more of these people and be happy they are being called to the front of the room to explain themselves. Simply put the behavior was unacceptable and if they do not face any consequences they will fill all to comfortable doing this again. They have brought shame to their professions, Towson University and themselves, though I fear their arrogance will prevent them from seeing this.
80cycles
10:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
so these politicians consider this the most "disrespectful" treatment they saw? WHAT ABOUT THE WAY THE SPARROWS POINT STEEL MILL SHUT DOWN? Not even a peep from our politicians, for a company that provided BILLIONS into the state's economy, but God help you if a subpar baseball program gets canned. I hope Towson's President tells them to shove it up their tookus!
Steve Misewich
9:46 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Real nice 80cycles. Tell college aged kids to shove it up their tookus. Student athletes that average a 3.0 GPA. By the way, they are underfunded and still are very competitve. 12-7 on the year and beat an ACC program, Duke 2 out of 3. I wouldn't call that subpar. I'm sorry about the Sparrows Point Steel Mill and I don't know much about the situation. It's terrible that good working people lost jobs, but that's no reason to take it out on these kids that had nothing to do with it.
Blake
11:59 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The Sparrows Point Steel Mill was not a state run institution.
Phil Morrison
8:50 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
It is a shame the president did not have the ‘confidence‘ to tell the truth.
This decision is a slap in the face to many of the TU community; the president’s lies only make it worse. The president has embarrassed TU –there are reports on ESPN condemning her actions!
Student fees provide the money for athletics at TU– revenue generated is miniscule. The football team revenues do not come close to paying their portion of the budget, the Men’s Basketball team revenues do not come close to paying their portion of the budget. Both programs cost much more than the tiny revenue they generate. There is no scenario where they will pay their way, much less the cost of the other sports.
One of the ugliest aspects of this is the return of Men’s Tennis. That team is only being created to follow NCAA rules that a school has to have a minimum of 6 men’s teams. There will be no scholarships for tennis – despite the lie the president states where ‘all sports will have scholarships’.
There is no ‘savings’ in this plan, as the president states in paragraph two. This is a budget reallocation – as the president says two sentences later! The money is going to football & men’s basketball and men’s lacrosse. There is NO savings in the plan. The Athletics budget increases every year… in the plan. The scholarships from Men’s Soccer and Baseball are being switched to Football & Men’s Lax.
Cheri Bond Pegues
9:31 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Very true, Phil. It is my understanding that by simply raising the student fees by $30-40 per year, this could have been avoided. Very sad indeed.
Steve Misewich
10:17 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
So true Phil. If it wasn't for those pesky NCAA rules, Towson would just support football, basketball and lacrosse. The men's swimming, golf, and the new tennis teams are so extremely underfunded and have been chosen by the administration because they are the cheapest alternatives to baseball and soccer. Keeping in mind that the "expensive" baseball and soccer programs were 3% of the total athletic budget. Oh, and last I checked, Towson had the MOST female sports teams in the CAA. 13!
AnsonW
8:44 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
So Cheri, your answer is just to have student fees cover these costs? How much would you be willing to pay?
AnsonW
8:47 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
James Madison has 12 women's sports and 6 men's sports after cutting 7 men's and 3 women's teams in 2006. James Madison puts a ton of money into baseball and does not have mens lacrosse.
Bill Link
9:01 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Hard to believe that we are the wealthiest state in the nation and cann't fund a baseball and soccer program at a D1 school. Bill
AnsonW
8:43 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
Bill, do you go to Towson soccer or baseball games?
Phil Morrison
9:54 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
This terrible decision by the president of TU is coapletely internally driven. There are no extarnal factors. The money (and scholarships) being taken from men's soccer & baseball are going to the football team, because that is what the AD wants.
Title IX, budgets, etc. - all these are fabrications.
My congrats to the Comptroller for calling out the TU admins on this embarrassment.
AnsonW
8:42 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
You are wrong. The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
Chuck Burton
10:34 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Bring back Baseball (America's Game) and Soccer, and eliminate Loeschke.
AnsonW
8:42 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
How many Towson games do you go to a year Chuck?
Phil Morrison
10:35 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
The president mentions the ‘hard work’ that went into examining all options; she fails to mention the incompetent handling of the budget over the last three years, by the AD. The president failed to mention her lack of ‘confidence’ that required her to have armed police at the announcement to the student athletes - shameful.
The president states TU will be ‘investing in scholarships across all sports’ – not true – in the plan there are NO scholarships for Men’s Swimming, Golf, Men’s Tennis. The men’s swimming team has finished last in the Conference four years running. These three teams have no hope of being competitive.
The women’s teams are only getting the scholarships required to offset the Football, MBB and M Lax scholarships. The plan states there are Tier 1 sports – Football, Men’s basketball, Men’s Lacrosse. All other sports – Tier 2. A disgrace. The president lies about the competitiveness issue. The president lies about Title IX issues – there is no Title IX issue at TU. Of course, the school has published three different sets of roster numbers regarding Title IX, all lies. What TU needs is an AD who works for all student athletes, not just football, men’s basketball and men’s lacrosse. The AD should be ashamed of breaking the TU sports into Tier 1 (get almost all of the resources) and Tier 2 (only get left overs). TU also needs a president who has leadership skills, not ‘spin’ skills and a willingness to tell lies.
AnsonW
8:42 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
You are wrong. The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
Phil Morrison
10:43 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
The women student athletes at TU should be outraged by this decision.
All women's sports are considered tier 2 by this TU plan. Their support is minimal at best, and these sports only exist to balance the Football, Men's Basketball and Men's Lacrosse rosters. TU treats the female ateams abysmally. This plan codifies that treatment. The AD is disgusting.
Steve Misewich (above) is exactly right - TU is only doing the exact minimum for other sports teams... TU would have no other sports (besides Football, Men's Basketball and Men's Lacrosse) if it were not for the NCAA rules. Let me be clear, NO other Men's sports, NO women's sports (NONE), if it were not required by the NCAA.
The AD's plan states this clearly.
AnsonW
8:41 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
Phil, you are wrong on this. There have been three tiers at Towson for more than 15 years. Women's basketball, softball, soccer, volleyball and lacrosse are all tier one sports.
JCW
10:46 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Travesty of epic proportions. Fraud committed by a state university deserves investigation by the State Government. If you continue to dig into the details this DECISION was avoidable yet predetermined by an Athletic Director that mismanaged the budget then looked for something to sacrifice. Innocent college students took the fall. Towson Univ should be ashamed
AnsonW
8:40 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
You are wrong. The budget management over the past two years has been based on using fund balance dollars to invest money is critical areas of need, outlined in a strategic report that was commissioned by the former President before the new sports director was even hired. The additional dollars that have been used for athletic trainers, academic tutors, a new academic services center, coaches, and new locker rooms for all sports were all paid for by using a 2 million dollar fund balance over a 3 year period, last year, this year and next year. I got this information from someone in the budget office at Towson and it is fact.
Steve Del Giudice
10:10 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
As an ex baseball alumn for Towson (1989) the news saddens me. I feel like a piece of me is being taken away.
AnsonW
8:35 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
Steve, how many games a year did you go back for? Did you donate money back to support the program every year since you graduated?
Sean Smith
12:48 am on Friday, March 22, 2013
Alright people this is getting ridiculous. I'm a current Towson student who actually lives on campus so I see a lot of this in person. Yes, the way this all went down is pretty pathetic on the part of our administration, and yes we are trying too hard to get our top teams up to a ridiculously high level. Can we please stop trying to make this into a politics thing? It doesn't matter that this is a university in blue state or if it were in a red state. Every university in this country sees one color and one color alone: green. Now my favorite two sports happen to be basketball and lacrosse so I am happy those teams are still here, but I'm not naive enough to not know that they are here because they make the university the most money. You want a solution to this problem overall? Call Roger Gooddell and tell him to keep weakening his product in the NFL. Once the revenues from football start to come down (which frankly might be never) then the other sports in this world will have a chance to exist. Without that happening, every other sport in this world is ultimately screwed because they don't generate enough money.
siccario@gmail.com
1:14 am on Thursday, March 28, 2013
Sean.. As an football Alum.. I appreciate your level headed approach to this concern... The only thing fact I would offer to all the others would be; look at the history surrounding Marshall, Tulane, Duke, and NC... some of these schools made a move similar to this one cutting specific programs to allow the reallocation of scholarships... IT is by no means fair, fun or anything of the sort; I'm not saying it is a good decision nor a proper way to do business.. and for all the political folks chiming in how is this not a conservative approach. The AD and the President of the school are (QUOTE- EN QUOTE) eliminating the wasteful spending on sports that are competitive but not winning championships and focusing on funding the more successful programs; I don't care who you are that is as republican/conservative as it gets. That said it is a tough pill to swallow for a lot of people considering the football team has only become extremely competitive over he last few seasons, and the basketball team hasn't produced a recent run at or secure any tourney birth.The schools cut the other teams not due to their budget but the number of scholarships they're have to carry by their respective conferences. And don't forget the terms were brought back after the schools got more money from the media contracts. All That said if what they reported is the way the coaches and players were informed. Im disgusted at the lack of respect, compassion, integrity and loyalty of the AD and the President
John K
7:57 am on Thursday, March 28, 2013
This is how Liberals handle things! Off with their heads!!!!
AnsonW
8:34 am on Sunday, March 31, 2013
Maryland did not bring back any teams yet.
Ed
2:45 pm on Sunday, March 31, 2013
AnsonW, you have shown an amazing ability to cut and paste the same message ad nausem. Congratulations. A few points of contention, though. You have asked several folks if they have gone to games. If the decision to have college sports teams was based on people showing up, than the college sports landscape would be much smaller. There'd be essentially no DII or DIII teams and few, if any, non revenue sports at DI. And the last time I went to a Towson baseball game, in the mid 90s when I was back living in Towson, they were not charging, so I doubt if attendance would have much effect on the decision from a financial point of view. (For the record, I grew up in Towson and most of my high school friends went there. I went to fellow CAA school Northeastern, which back in those pre-CAA days was in the old ECAC North. Towson was Division III back then, but with a more well rounded program.) I do have issues with the school building its SECOND new basketball arena in its relatively brief tenure as a DI school (about 30 years). And while they have done their best to highlight football, basketball and men's lacrosse, they have relatively little to show for it. --more--
Ed
2:46 pm on Sunday, March 31, 2013
(continued) They have had one really good football season since moving to DI-AA and many horrible seasons. They were the one team Northeastern could always beat, and Northeastern's team was so bad they folded the program. Men's basketball hasn't had any real success since Terry Truax left. The lacrosse program has consistently been the worst among the DI schools in the Baltimore area along with UMBC. If you go back and look at the records, the soccer and baseball teams have been more successful on the field in the CAA era. I think they will be throwing good money after bad by killing off baseball and soccer.