You do realize that the root cause here isn't guns or large magazines. It's mental health.

It's a large pile of political whodonkey. How about the 2000 kids killed each day in abortion clinics here in this country??? How about limiting the number of abortions one of those "clinic" can perform per day??!! I find the hypocracy absurd. The dictator in DC has things so stirred up with attempting to break the constitution that no one even thinks about all those little babies being sucked up into vaginal vacuum cleaners after being chopped to pieces while their very hearts are still beating. It is not a woman's right to kill children. Where is the outcry for that crime??

And women who have abortions no welfare for a year - 2nd offense get a straight jacket installed - 3rd offense, 10 years in hell (or maybe for life).

for what? Guns, mags, assault rifles do not kill people. Making them illegal for law abiding citizens to own is not only against the 2nd Amendment but stupid. The only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.

Yeah. Obama would have George Washington and Paul Revere on his watch list too. But that's not bad company in my book.

Have you seen the pictures of these fellers? George Washington and Paul Revere were patricians, one a farmer and the other a silversmith. These guys look like they tend a still

Not needing something doesn't warrant banning it. If this were true, Ferarri's and Lamborghini's would be banned.

Next argument?

I don't remember the last time a Ferrari or Lamborghini was involved in a shooting? Do you? Same old stupid argument.

Nice Frank. Grammar Nazi. How mature of you. I don't care. Find something more useful to worry about.

Magazines are designed to hold ammo. it's an inanimate object. Again, you're a typical liberal who can't see through this to the root cause: mental health. Guns and hi-cap mags are not the problem. Mental health and people like you who think guns are the problem, are in fact the real problem.

Yea right, cause of death per the coroner's report, gunshot wound to the head - Emilie Parker dead from "inanimate" object.

Frank & FIFA, it's not a tired old, used up talking point at all. It's absolutely relevant because of the capacity of those cars to go faster then legally allowed. And, the most important point is that all firearms are covered by the 2nd amendment. A God given right!

Actually, Stop Crime, there are laws that prohibit cars that are too powerful from using public streets. There are limits for how fast you can go, how many passengers you can carry, etc. So your analogy falls apart. But thanks for playing.

FIFA - Lamborghinis and Ferarris are built to exceed the speed limit. Which is illegal.

Next argument?

Stop Crime, do you have any original thoughts that aren't NRA talking points? The issue isn't simply about mental health, or violent video games. There are mentally ill people in Canada, Australia, Japan, England and all around the world. Yet these countries are not experiencing an epidemic of mass shootings like the U.S.

Are you just an NRA stooge, or actually on their payroll?

Walter - And there are already 20,000+ gun laws as well.

The only magazines the libs on here are familiar with are Good Housekeeping and People.

Native, your god didn't give you any rights to own a gun. And you don't have a right to own any gun you want. Every try buying an M16 or a M60 machine gun. How about a tank? Is it Native or Naive?

Guns aren't designed solely for killing. They work great for scaring the hell out of someone who breaks into your house in the middle of the night too.

Same stupid talking point repeated ad nauseum.

And your attempt to correct grammer mistakes in order to side-step the issue is plurally annal.

"Guns aren't designed solely for killing. They work great for scaring the hell out of someone who breaks into your house in the middle of the night too."

...so are baseball bats. Just ask the dude who I put in the hospital when I found him lurking about. I didn't need 20+ rounds to take him down. Just a Griffey like swing to the head and ribs.
Stop hiding behind the NRA. They are grasping at straws.

Responsibilty-n- respect lies in the hands of whoever is holding the gun.

"THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED."

Of course it will be, everything in America is. The real question is, if it will get a larger audience than Honey Boo Boo or not.

If that were true then you'd be monitoring Obama who is clearly an aggressor and a propogandist. From the national defense authorization act to fast and furious to arming al-queda to using the military to fight in Libia without congressional authorization this man is a true enemy of the people. Wake up.

Al Day - I'm still waiting for those Iraqi WMDs - Isn't that what Bush & Chaney told us? And then they didn't even pay for it in the normal way.

Poor little rightie - short memory...

Nonsense or not, it's the law in MD. The right always touts States Rights - these 'vendors' should have known the laws of MD. If they did (or didn't), that makes them firearm criminals. To paraphrase a Seinfeld show - "No Gun Shows For You."

Ironic you use the term scary rifles. The semi automatic 22 hunting rifle uses the same mechanism as the AK47 and most all other semi-auto's. The shape of the gun is what makes some guns scary to some. To others it's the caliper and velocity or the type ammo such as hollow point. For most people who are complaining about guns, they probably have never used or needed a gun, thus their ignorance of those who do. Try killing a rattle snake with a stick. Try killing 2 or three with 2 or 3 sticks or a single shot before you get bit. Try fending off a wild hog with a .22 single shot. Or better yet try fending off 2 intruders entering your home with a single shot. You pukes make me sick with your liberal bs. You know nothing about self defense. And the founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment to guard against tyrannical government more than intruders.

Al, go back to bed. It is time to change your Depends.

Al Day - maybe I'm not totally up to date, but you say that a .22 is similar to an AK47 round? I didn't know the AK47 used a rim-fire cartridge. And I'm not sure what a two-legged measuring device (caliper) has to do with the difference between a hunting rifle and an assault weapon. Calibre, yes. It might help if your spelling skills advanced to the level you think you have reached. Otherwise some might think you are responding during your breaks while doing your homework.

@D - The last paragraph of the article: "Police said charges are pending for the customer who they said purchased the illegal magazine. Police are withholding the name of the customer until a full investigation can be carried out."
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He was probably a politician or someone with political connections who was buying to defend his family. Probably never get charged.

the person buying the mag was a cop ... it's like a cop maskarading as a hit man to trap your wife after sshe tries to hire someone to kill you ..or a cop tryig to hire a pro .. to him or her on a prostitution rap ..
and thgis is for Al.. and your blathering about abortions .. what if the abortion is for a woman who was forcibly raped and her Republican automatic abortion cream didn't work .. or your daughter has a tubal pregnancy and she doesn't want to die in agony .. or some ten-year-old girl got pregnant by her daddy .. and maybe mom realizes she can't handle raising a kid ..???
and by the way . I don't see michelle bachman introducing a bill to finance the costs of birthing and raising all those unwantewd kids..

If your wife can't hit a target with 7 rounds, she shouldn't be using a gun.

She shouldn't even be allowed to hold it if she hasn't been trained - And if it takes more than 20 rounds to take out one intruder, there is REALLY something wrong...

Walter - It's a totally different story when someone breaks into your house. I guess you've been lucky enough to not have to use a weapon in self defense. I hope you never have to.

Let's see Doug, assuming you keep your weapons safely locked up, by the time that intruder, who probably wasn't kicking your door in, but was sneaking in finds your wife asleep, she is dead. Get real. Your TV scenarios are silly. If the armed intruder is coming to kill you, you will be dead. Unless like Clint Eastwood, you can sleep with one eye open. Or do you keep your AR15 under your pillow?

LOL.. obviously by these repsonses, nobody has been in a fire fight with a moving target. You all watch too much Kojak. Personally, a 12 gauge short barrell with 00buck is what she would use... but you can't always get to that in time. If she has a handgun, she may need 20 or more rounds if not hit first... and she is trained.

As if you have, some of us have been in the military and understand what these weapons are all about. You clearly don't.

I carried a gun for 22 years of my life and have had extensive survival training for work... so don't spout off like a clueless idiot. People that say all you need is six shots to kill someone in a fire fight, are the same idiots that ask, "why don't the police just shoot them in the leg".. A bunch of TV watchers.. you seem to fit the mold FIFA

Yea right Doug, and I jumped over the Empire State Building!

Keep watching Maury Povich FIFA.. complacency and naivety are best friends to the mindless

LOL A Mall Ninja.

For the extremely naive.... if 7 shots is all it takes in a fire fight. most police depts (including Baltimore County) in the 80's wouldn't have issued 15 shot magazines with their Sig Sauer P226 9mm automatics and 45 rounds total .. 30 in back-up magazines (or similiar baretta;s or glocks), and Joseph Palzinski would have been shot one time between the eyes, instead of 33 rounds a second from a Tac 9 machine gun.

Funny Walter.. you think and intruder with a gun, firing at you, is a "target" and something that you are likely to hit with a few shots while hiding behind you sofa, hoping not to be killed. I guess you think they come in wearing a silloetted T shirt with 8, 9 10 and 10X rings on the front too .

Or just confused by the rhetoric. Obama has been spewing comments about banning high capacity clips. I do see they were aware of this particular infraction, though, in fairness to law enforcement. The law itself is the issue. It is wrong. We have a duty to resist tyranny in any form. I didn't just make that up either. It was written by one of the founding fathers during a time when the redcoats were trying to round up guns at the beginning of the revolution.

Well said. Stupid liberals think that making certain weapons illegal and certain magazines illegal that it will stop violence.

The thing is, these laws aren't retroactive - meaning those who own them don't have to turn them in. Criminals will still steal stuff, and retroactive laws won't work. That's been proven in Nazi Germany and other countries in Europe during WW2. Look how that turned out!

Stupid gun nuts, as many "conservatives" also believe in reasonable gun laws, do have one point, if you cannot eliminate the semi-automatic weapons that are in "inventory" we will continue to have many "Sandy Hook" events for the foreseeable future. Isn't that great, we are just waiting for the next mass shooting, at a school, at a playground, at a movie theater, at a football game?

To the individual who keeps calling others names (stupid gun nuts) just ask Susanne Hup who lost both her parents in a mass shooting because she followed the law about carrying a concealed handgun and left in her car instead. Or a member of the armed forces during world war 2 who defended your right to exist with a fire arm. nuff said, fool.

Well, Stop Crime, the freshly-signed New York State law regarding large magazines gives folks 1 year to sell their existing magazines out of state, so the laws can be retroactive.

Amen girlfriend! well stated!
this world loves to remain ignorant because ignorance is used as an excuse for irresponsibility.

The shooter in the Portland Mall shot himself.

The problem with Gun Nuts like "Stop Crime" is they refuse to recognize that there is an endless supply of soft targets. You fruitcakes believe the Wild West should return with everyone packing a gun on their hip is the way to go! Nuts, absolutely nuts.

"Why are we so afraid of being wrong, even when faced with facts?The Boston globe wrote: "Most of us like to believe that our opinions have been formed over time by careful, rational consideration of facts and ideas, and that the decisions based on those opinions, therefore, have the ring of soundness and intelligence. In reality, we often base our opinions on our beliefs, which can have an uneasy relationship with facts..."

True. Blaming a gun for a shooting is like blaming the stove for getting burned. The mindless never let a good crisis go to waste, and the Sandy Hook incident is just the crisis they needed.

"Blaming a gun for a shooting is like blaming the stove for getting burned."

Using that rationale, why do we care if Iran builds a nuclear bomb or not?

And don't forget how our society desensitizes the disturbed with callous treatment or even taunting. Our society reaps what it sows. Abortion kills 2000 children each day even more innocent than the 1st graders at Sandy Hook and no one seems to understand action has consequence. Life is devalued by such behavior. Could that be a cause of the violence. Just asking.

Obama doesn't seem to care Steve. But keeping assault rifles out of the hands of deranged criminals is like keeping nukes out the hands of Iran. So your analogy is flawed. The gun control analogy would be "let's ban nukes in the US" so Iran can't get them. More gun restriction laws for the good guys, doesn't mean the bad guys will listen.

"Flawed" LOL Bombs don't kill people. People kill people.

Yes it is Tony. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"

"Need" has nothing to do with it. It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs. Who cares why she wanted it, she had a right to own it.

"Your" Bill of Rights on the 2nd amendment was changed after 200 years because of a change in the Supreme Court. That will be corrected over the next 12 years at least of democratic rule. Good Luck. Are you going to revolt then?

And we stopped the nuclear arms race and reduced the threat by agreeing to get rid of the weapons. Sounds like a good model to me...

No one is going to win against a tyrannical governments military. See most of Africa in the past few decades.

Not many believe the military or most local LEO will enforce something they believe is an illegal order or an unconstitutional order. The LEO's would never turn on their families friends and neighbors. Obama is treating American law abiding firearm owners in more disrespect than the radical Islamists who killed our Ambassador and 3 others.

Law abiding firearm owners are made more of a pariah than Governor Jon Corzine who has never been questioned for a missing $2 BILLION. Who AG Holder said would not be prosecuted! $2,000,000,000. Depositors cash. Gone Missing.

Fast and Furious which WAS to be the impetus for this push. This has been written many many years ago. The murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata and various Mexican citizens and elected officials delayed the agenda.
The alphabet soup press is complicit.

"Never let a crisis go to waste." Rhambo "stinky fish" Emanuel

That is a bunch of crap. you need so many bullets to stop a robber. The robber has his gun in his hand are you going to tell him to hold it until you can get your automatic rifle. Come on get real.

Trans something-or-other, I think he is trying to say. Do what?

How many kids would have died in Newtown if Adam Lanza had a hammer?

How many would have died in the theater in Aurora, CO if James Holmes had a club?

I'll take my chances against a hammer or club - you can stare-down the AR-15...

"you can stare-down the AR-15..."

(I do, from the right end. Here is a firearm I would love to purchase and supply every liberal like you.
http://www.wilsonstation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/backward-pistol.jpg

HoneyPotGal is another with a huge school of red herrings. Can't debate the facts so all they have is "what ifs". Major fail. More Mothers and Fathers kill more of their own children than RIFLES did in 2011 and they are going after the rifles?

JoeBlob -

The discussion is about guns and gun violence - you brought clubs and hammers into it to compare them to people killed by guns. Who brought the red herring into the discussion?

And while ANY murder of a child is very tragic, someone running through a school (or a theater) and killing any number of SOMEONE ELSE'S children is usually considered a more heinous crime than victims of domestic struggles.

Get your head screwed on straight, JoeBlob. You're a disgusting mess.

So, my dear Sanchez - mental ward = ineligible to own a gun? What medical school did you go to? According to you, any disorder in the brain automatically disqualifies one from owning a gun - what a maroon.

AGREE !!

wee, wee, wee...all the way home. You and the Teabaggers going to form a committee or is the constant surveillance of the FBI not enough?

Does that check include Speaker Bohner?? he's obviously an alcoholic ..

HoneyPotGal is at it again as usual. Reading things that are not there for his own twisted purposes. I never said that did I?
I thought you would not discuss mental health issues HoneyPotGal.
Your ignorance HoneyPotGal is only exceeded by your idiocy.

JoeBlob signs into the knuckledraggers' club again. You will get all of the benefits to which you are entitled.

You said JJ Jr. was in a mental ward, and thus needed a background check. That's what YOU said.

Thus, a simple inference that you believe that any mental imbalance is grounds for more than a background check for gun ownership.

JoeBlob, JoeBlob - nothing beats a JoeBlob.

Your CopyPasta gets old and boring. You paste in the same links on any and all related topics. Very little independent debate or thought, just CopyPasta.

It's more about Constitutional Law abiding citizens wanting to be left alone... without the intrusion of government in our lives...there are many willing to fight the good fight to protect and preserve this American life style....I suppose that if you have never lived it and yet you oppose it, you'l never understand the very basic's.
The real problem that I believe our Country faces is APATHY...sheeple by the masses being led by the government with low lip shaking heads...dumbed down to the level of control that they will follow without question. Even to the point of creating anonymous defenders of government control...the Second Amendment will never go away...just follow the government lead if you must, if it brings comfort and safety to your controlled life...enjoy !

Great idea! I WISH that route were taken instead of the continuing small infringements on our rights. Appealing the 2nd Amendment is the goal so I wish people were intellectually honest and go that route. Either appeal it or leave it alone. It is not a Federal issue anyway but a State issue.

China would love a good citizen like yourself. Don't like it? Leave.

I say to you Rocco Rotondo that you sound like one of those Liberals that love to spew out all your BS about all your rights and freedoms, but have never fought for them. Maybe when you grow a pair, I will listen to all your stupid rhetoric as too many good men and women have stood up when called upon to fight and die to protect the freedoms that are afforded to the citizens of this nation by the constitution. As for the NRA's puny 4 million members dumbass, let me remind you that is larger than this nations current standing military and will fight to protect our freedoms.

Excuse me? Did you mistaken me for a rabid child like Frank or Fifi or Steve? Re read my comments and you will see my name in that list is a mistake.

Gun Owner, I only wish they did go after the 2nd and not destroy it on the fringes,. Repealing the 2nd is the best way and LEGAL way to fight this. It would never be successful, thus the infringement at the fringes.

Nicely said Allstar...its such a shame there is so many others out there wearing blinders :(

Frank, did YOU read the EO's? Can you explain any of them and what one or more would have prevented Adam Lanza for committing his crime?
Did Obama need an EO to appoint the head of the ATF?
Does Obama have the power under his EO's to force doctors to discuss anything with the government that is between the doctor and the patient?
It will be very interesting to read your coherent comments and explanations of these questions.

Apparently Frank does not have the capability to respond to simple questions.

does that mental health check up include speaker of the house Bohner?? he's obviously an alcoholic...

Yes it would include all as I stated clearly.

Have a job. Good one. But not germane to the discussion. You might have a job, probably not a good one. But not germane to the discussion. The insults at you were the result of you making stupid/ignorant comments about what judges do, you were a winner in that category. We are guilty as charged of insulting stupidity/ignorance when it came to your comments. I'll try to do better if you promise to do so as well.

Like i said FIFA. Everything i said were quotes pulled from sitting Justices. Look them up. Then please feel stupid. Must suck to be an adult and still a Liberal. Time to grow up buddy.

CP, you have gone from ignorant to stupid, go back to school, fool.

LOL, you're absolutely right CP! Typical libs aren't they?

Do you know about the 2 militias in America? Do you klnow it says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED? Do you know that the Supreme Court off the US decided 2 cases in the past 5 years that said the 2nd is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT with no connection to the "militia" clause? Apparently not or you just do not care.

"people" is also mentioned in the 2nd. people = folk - nation - public - populace - population.

No, he gets to be the Men's Restroom monitor at Board Meetings.

Wayne Ross is his backup.

Good riddance!

Now THAT sounds like conspiracy theory...

Also...In the event that government would openly turn against citizens the Marines would stand down...they also swore the oath to uphold and protect the Constitution..
Our Armed Forces would never turn against Americans if things got really serious..

Why should anyone have to be careful of what they say? Your post just proved why we need the 2nd Amendment. Free speech shouldn't land you in jail. No one should fear any Gov agency. The Government should fear its citizens.

Your post is the reason we need the 2nd Amendment. No one should live in fear of their government. The government should fear its citizens.

I agree Darrell, there is much more to fear out there every day on the "real streets" with "real criminals" then to bust two 60 yr old men selling a magazine. Not much of a threat there I guess.

Well don't you think they should spend some time trying to keep the drug dealers from getting expanded magazines in the first place? Or do we wait to confiscate them at a crime scene?

Just Sayin'