Lawyer: Perry Hall Shooting Suspect Bullied, Intended No Harm
Robert W. Gladden Jr.'s attorney is challenging investigators' account of the Monday shooting.
The attorney representing Robert W. Gladden Jr.—the 15-year-old accused of shooting another student in Perry Hall High School Monday morning—is challenging investigators' narrative of the attack.
George Psoras Jr., whose legal practice is based in Lutherville, claims that Gladden, a sophomore, was bullied and never intended to harm anyone when he brought a gun into the school's cafeteria, The Associated Press reports.
Psoras said he believes Gladden shot into the floor, and then shot the gun again accidentally when teachers tried to wrestle it away, according to the report.
"The stereotype right now is that we have a Columbine," Psoras told The Associated Press. "It's simply not the case. This is a typical teenager who was just starting this school year. He was being bullied, and the bullying has to stop."
Psoras declined to comment on the case when contacted by Patch on Wednesday.
During a Tuesday news conference, Baltimore County Police Chief Jim Johnson emphasized that Gladden had cooperated with police after his arrest Monday morning, and investigators did not believe bullying was a factor in the shooting.
The Associated Press also detailed Gladden's Facebook page with a status, written before the attack, that included, "First day of school, last day of my life." It also made reference to mass murderer Charles Manson and included the nickname "SuicidalSmile."
Jasmine Turno, a Perry Hall High freshman, said that two days after the attack, the school retained an eerie feeling. Turno said that if students had been more aware of each other, the shooting may never have happened.
"We know we could have stopped it, and we didn't," she said. "Obviously from his Facebook status, he was upset and suicidal ... we should have watched out for him because he was quiet. Everyone knows you have to watch out for the quiet ones. It's just crazy."
Austin Kahmer, a sophomore and acquaintance of Gladden, said he wouldn't have suspected that he would bring a gun to school.
"I didn't know him super well, but I've talked to him. He was never crazy like that before. He used to be all right, and then I don't know what happened," Kahmer said.
Noah Gaylor, also a sophomore, said he remembered Gladden from when they both attended Perry Hall Middle School, but that he was quiet in high school.
"I didn't really talk to him," Gaylor said.
Cassandra Alt
5:06 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
If he meant NO HARM then he wouldn't have even brought the gun to school at all!
MOMMYOF2
11:45 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
EXACTLY!!!!
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Michele
5:07 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Psoras is a fool. Typical teenagers don't take shotguns and vodka to school.
Knot
1:28 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I hate the fact that someone has to be on this kids side. Defending him for this tragic event. Even if he was bullied it still does not judge him to bring a shotgun into school. Others will think it's ok to do that!?!
What i've heard from older adults, "back when we were in school you used to just beat the person up if the bullied you." Not saying that is good, but a gun is not any better. Kids shouldn't have to worry about people having guns in school.
I've also heard this kid got a punishment in middle school for having crack cocaine. I feel this early age of drinking and drugs and the home life has cause more damage that we are not seeing.
Oksana Merryman
3:09 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Or on a bus even
Megan Gray
5:46 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
So upsetting to watch the attorney on the news! He looks like a sleazeball and you don't bring a shotgun and 20 rounds of ammo to "intimidate" someone. He meant to do serious damage. Thank you Mr. Wasmer. My son is a freshman this year and this has been very difficult. How do you make sense of something that makes no sense?
Sassy
5:55 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
It appears the lawyer is going to use whatever he can to help his client, but come on, taking a gun to school and leaving weird remarks on FB to make people believe he was going to do what he actually attempted to do? The lawyer might have a difficult time with this one.
Joe
7:15 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
It's what your defense attorney does for you. Notice they are called 'defense' attorneys even though you are supposedly 'innocent until proven guilty'. Shouldn't they be Innocence attorneys?
Natalie Gabler
7:05 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
shotgun+amo+school=premediated hurt
Tracey Reitterer
7:07 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
I'll bet that fool lawyer wouldn't be saying the same thing if it was HIS son in critical condition in the hospital.
Joe
7:16 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
If it was your son you would hope he did the same thing. That's what he is paid to do.
Tracey Reitterer
7:29 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
If my son was evil enough to open fire on a school like that, I would disown him, not call on a lawyer to defend him.
Joe
7:45 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Really? Disown him at the time he may need you the most? Abandon your own blood? Not want him defended legally? Wow.
Jon
8:21 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Honestly Joe, what would you do if it was your son? Wouldn't you want him to take responsibility for what he did? Wouldn't you want him punished?
If it was your son that got shot, would that change your mind?
Joe
8:44 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I would be devastated, feel guilty I failed, I would feel anger at his actions, embarrassed for my family, not sleep. But I would not disown him by any stretch of the imagination. I would get him the help he needs and the best defense attorney I could find and afford. I would then do what I could for the victim and his family.
I would still love my son and be by his side.
If it was my son shot? I have no clue. Never crossed my mind so there has been no reason to think about it. I have had a very close family member in deed deep trouble and I have thought about what I would do if I were in the position of that father. It is a sad sad thing to deal with on both side.
But under no circumstances would I abandon my children or no longer love them as my own.
K Blue
1:03 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I agree with Joe.
Jeanne
12:36 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
I wouldn't disown my child but I wouldn't spend my money getting an attorney for him. Bobby committed several crimes and does need to pay for them but he also needs help.
DaughterOfAKing
8:45 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012
I agree with Joe as well.
Aaron Wilkinson
7:38 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Bobby is a quiet kid. There was no bullying. He had friends. My friend Danny didnt deserve to be shot. I'm a senior at PHHS and were all trying to get Lady Gaga to contact him somehow. It would mean the world to him.
Red Dolphin
9:44 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
your school buddy is in our prayers, Aaron.........I heard that Bobby ( is that the victims name?) has downes syndrome that correct ?,,,,,,,,ceratainly not the bullying type that's crock Mr Porsas
Oksana Merryman
3:13 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Red Dolphin, I think it's Danny that has the Down syndrome not the shooter.
Red Dolphin
9:40 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
wow.my dad was a lawyer, a well qualified work-mans comp attorney, he never would agree with the statements made by Mr Psoras, why Robert why? what your trying to prove ? that you were to be respected ? you dont get it that way,we use to use our hands back in the day,,,,,,,,,, even that was a childish way of settling things,I admit, but never did the thought cross our minds to use any thing but our hands
Aaron Wilkinson
11:44 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Danny is the victim. Bobby is the shooter.
David Taylor
11:59 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012
"...we should have watched out for him because he was quiet. Everyone knows you have to watch out for the quiet ones."
Great... so now any kid who acts quiet is a potential threat?
Any other adults/parents/teachers want to work on correcting that notion, or is it best to target these "quiet kid" threats early?
scott morton
8:55 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
+1 on that. I found that statement disturbing as well.
Donna Bartlett
12:10 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
GEORGE PSORAS, FOR REAL? Bullied? So that gives him the right to try to kill people??? ACCIDENTLY SHOT INTO THE FLOOR? HE TAKES A LOADED SHOTGUN TO SCHOOL, WRITES ON FACEBOOK, ETC., ONLY TO "ACCIDENTLY" SHOOT INTO THE FLOOR? YOU Haven't changed a bit from when I knew you. What if it were your son or daughter lying in Shock Trauma in critical condition? I have a great idea: Let's give him a shotgun with 20 rounds and put your kids in front of him! I sure hope whoever the judge is has BETTER SENSE THAN YOU and denies the punk's bail request. Give him bail? Why? So he can go back to the school and do it again? Only the next time he would go after Mr. Wasmer and probably many more. KEEP HIM IN THERE where he belongs. Everyone will be more safe!!! GEORGE PSORAS, SHAME ON YOU!!!
Bel Air Native
12:50 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
George Psoras is a disgrace to the legal profession.
Penelope Patch
12:53 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
The fact that he brought the gun into the school in pieces and then assembled it is even more troubling. I interpret that as he knew it would be detected more readily if in final form, which looks a little like planning and premeditation. I still feel sorry for him, but my biggest sympathy is with the child in shock trauma.
Doug
7:06 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
According to the students in my neighborhood, Bobby became 'different" in the past year or two. He went to the Goth look, with black painted nails and long jet black hair, and he was an easy target for comments. I know a lot of parents will disagree with me, be I think school uniforms and standard hair cuts would stop a lot of this nonsense, The kids are there to learn, no display their identities.
Invisibella
9:29 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Amen!
Patty
8:11 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Apparently the shooter was bullied by another student not Daniel, Daniel was not the target. He was in the wrong place and the wrong time. Sad. The shooter's issues where missed by parents, school, etc. Kids can just be mean now days. The school is not trained on properly dealing with bullies. They usually just make things worse by not dealing with the bullies but by isolating the victim. The bullied kids fear telling for fear of retaliation. Not saying that what the shooter should have done what he did but this could have been avoided if someone had paid attention to the changes in this boy.
Buck Harmon
8:49 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
None of these comments will make a difference in this sad situation....like rubberneckers stopping to see a very bad accident, looking for blood or something.
Life will go on...hopefully all will recover...
g.b.
9:10 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
All these kids need our compassion - we can't just throw our hands up - that's what got these kids in this tragedy in the first place. Why were county schools money redirected to some schools, instead of being more equally distributed, for counselors, or support staff, not to mention just plain breathing room. That's why Joe Hairston was not rehired. I would not want to be forced to attend these overcrowded unfriendly places, nor would you. Money does matter. Spend more on our communities and less to the Pentagon, that would be a start. How to change the tragedy that's happening to these kids, whose lives have been traumatically interrupted, if not ended - and we are all to blame. Just a couple weeks ago that idiot Arne Duncan was pandering to teachers at Perry Hall, while secretly advocating for money to go everywhere else but true public education. We all better get really smart, really fast. Watch "Bowling for Columbine", think, and act. Volunteer at a public school,, you'll see why some of these kids feel so suicidal, and homicidal, and how little is being done to help them.
Jeanne
12:48 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
I volunteered for 13 years at public schools and I have never come across a student that is homicidal or suicidal. I always said hello to all the students I was around, including in the hall. I talked to some students that were upset about typical things for their age but none of them felt the need to go that extreme. Some of the comments I heard from parents about students were embarressing and I hope the students didn't hear them.
Jen C
9:16 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
We need to look deeper. Parents need to take responsibility for their children. If you look at the way Bobby was raised and the environment he was in, it troubles me. This leaves no excuse for his actions, but parents wake up and realize children did not ask to come into the world on their own you decided to have them. Nurture them, teach them. and love them. Guide them to be the best person that they can be. YOUR actions influence the person they will become. If you do not want to put the time and care into your child then let someone else who really wants to. This child should have been taught right from wrong. I also think he knew better than to bring a gun to school !!
Jeanne
12:49 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
You are very wise Jen C
Invisibella
9:28 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
The kids parents got a divorce in 2010, his biological father (Robert Wayne Gladden) has many drug, criminal and traffic violations, the step father (Andrew Piper) living with the mother has numerous drug, criminal and traffic violations. I feel this has nothing to do with bullying and everything to do with a kid getting screwed up by his living environment. Now it's going to become the school system's fault? Other students fault? No this is all about the environment a child is raised in. Look for yourself on Maryland Judiciary Case Search. It's all there.
Gary Staab
10:05 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
First off, I know that we all pray for Daniels speedy recover. Physical and emotional scars will stay with him and his family forever.
Mr. Psoras's role is to defend this troubled young adult. Lawyers use words as a part of this defense. Of course, some lawyers are better than others. Clearly Mr. Psoras used the wrong words.
Mr. Psoras, This was not first day 'Show and tell'. No one brings a gun to school unless they intend harm.
Bobby may not have been bullied, but when you dress and act so much different than average teens, you have to expect comments. It's obviously an intimidating look.
VWK
10:05 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Bobby is a kid who was let down by everyone - his parents, the school, and even kids who saw what was happening and didn't say anything. It sounds like he withdrew into himself and no one noticed or cared. Kids have said he was bullied, but we haven't heard to what extent or any of the details. I haven't heard anything, either, about the kids who threw food at him that day. It sounds like that is what set him off. That's when he left and got the gun. Has anyone dealt with them? Schools are saying they're addressing the bullying issue but I hope this is a wake up call to everyone that its a way more serious issue than we think. I'm not excusing Bobby's actions in any way, shape or form. The real victim in all of this is Daniel - but Bobby needs someone to come alongside of him and reach out to him, even though he still needs to be punished for his actions. It sounds like he has no positive parental influence at all. For his lawyer to call him a "typical teenager" is just plain ridiculous.
Penelope Patch
11:06 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
My thoughts exactly
Needaname
7:01 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
.... where is the 'Like' button around here.
Lori M
10:06 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
The fact is an innocent person with everyday challenges that many of us cannot imagine was shot. The WHY should be the basis to get the person that did the shooting help but should not excuse him from his actions. My heart hurts for both of the families.
Sherri
10:18 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I feel PHHS needs to do more about the bullying, it has been going on there for years, my son had to drop out because of this and the school knew all about this situation and did nothing to help out.I if the adults in the school would be more aware of the children maybe someone could have seen the signs of a teen needing help
Bart
10:29 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Let me start by saying that I feel this is a tragedy - a totally innocent person - (does poor Daniel even understand what has happened to him?) seriously injured by the result of a broken, dangerously disfunctional home life.
There are some kids, for whom the ONLY stable place in their lives is school. Schedules, Responsibility, Behavoir, Expectation. Some make it, some don't.
This kid's home life (pick one) had to have been chaos!
Yet, there are those who want to cut the budgets of the schools, eliminate Counselors, Nurses.
Apparently, this boy has cycled in and out of Alternative Placement, which is where he should have stayed, permanently. I'm sure budget constraints limited the help he truly needed.
He is a broken person, barely 15. I am very pessimistic that he can ever learn to live as a normal person within society.
sherry
12:01 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
well said Bart
Needaname
7:05 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Never give up Bart. Hopefully Bobby can get the help he needs and learns NEW ways of managing his emotions. I can not imagine how he must feel INSIDE. I truly believe deep down people know the difference between right and wrong. Bobby did admit he felt bad and that in itself says there is a scrap of humanity inside.
john
11:42 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
ALL PARENTS ARE AT FAULT. Instead of buying nice cars, clothes etc. Spend that money on Christian School. If you can't do that at least go to church. Parents today do not go to church so your kids will not learn good morals. Who is at fault, the parents. Try a nice music christian church and you will see why.
Bart
11:58 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
... a nice music christian church..... yeah, that oughtta do it.
MOMMYOF2
12:00 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Are u kidding me....Christian School...and go to church??? I'm so sick and tired of hearing about how things like this are happening because people don't have GOD in their lives. Things like this are happening because PARENTS don't pay attention to their kids and discipline them when needed. It all starts from in the home.
JD1
2:42 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
My kids went to a local catholic school and the rich preppie kids bullied the hell out of kids who came from lower income families. Don't drink the "private school" kool aid. Most are mediocre at best and are full of snotty ass kids and parents.
LA
8:28 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Children learn morals from their parents' *behavior*, not from where the family spends Sunday mornings or where the kids are sent to school.
If you want proof, look at how many people went to parochial schools and attend church regularly and still do things against their respective churches' teachings (a majority of Catholic women use birth control, for example; and during the week of the Born Again Christian music festival "Creation," local drugstores have record sales of condoms to young people). It's not the church or school that determines a person's morals; it's the behavior modeled by their parents when they're young combined with the choices they make as they grow up. You can't force morals onto someone.
Christian schools and churches are like food-- food itself doesn't make you fat or thin or healthy or unhealthy; how you use food results in those things, just as how you respond to your environment shapes who you are (especially considering the fact that churches are run by imperfect people who don't always model moral behavior, either).
Something went terribly wrong for this young man long ago for him to get to this point, and it's tragic for him and unfortunately moreso for Daniel Borowy. And though whatever happened to Robert was not his fault, his own actions now are 100% his own responsibility to account for.
There is no quick fix to preventing this situation in the future. It's going to take a lot of work as a country and in our communities.
Jeanne
12:59 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
My husband and I are two differnt religons and we wanted our son to decide for himself what religon he wanted to practice. He went to sunday school with friends but we didn't go to church every week. Our son has been on Honor Roll since 2nd grade, he is an Eagle Scout, and has held a job through out high school and college. He is respectful to everyone unless they give him reason not to, loyal to his family and friends,etc.... We didn't take our son to church every sunday and he is a good person.
Sue
11:53 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
1) Like my husband said-whatever happened to "meet me under the oak tree at 3 o'clock and we'll settle this." ?
2) His homelife was horrid, and the child had the deck stacked against him. (If you read one of the Sun's articles, it mentioned the parents agreed to split any restitution, property damage etc caused by Bobby-like they were expecting him to become a criminal) HOWEVER, allegedly, Bobby, as a 15 year old who is old enough to know right from wrong, brought a gun and a lot of ammunition to school. He deliberately went into the bathroom, assembled the gun and loaded it. This is not the act of someone trying to scare or intimidate another person. It is the act of someone meaning to do harm. He is now in the hands of the court, and 12 men and women will decide his fate. I certainly hope that intense therapy is a part of whatever is decided.
John
12:07 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Bullying? Absolutely! Definately! How else could you describe a situation where an inoscent you man sitting and minding his own business is purposely shot in the back by a calculating, premeditating coward that wants to show everyone around how strong he is? I think bully pretty much says it all. Can't wait to hear how big of a bully he is at the Hickey School.
Bart
12:26 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
John, remember----he's being tried as an adult. No Hickey School for him, unless something changes.
Lisa Ansell
1:14 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Seriously makes me laugh that Gabe things that Christian School is the answer because there aren't any hypocrit Christians in the world right? C'mon, wake up. And by the way, I am a Christian. I feel very sad for the shooter, however, I have seen proof that people can have a not so good upbringing but still turn out great. It's called making good choices. The shooter is obviously very disturbed. The entire thing was premeditated. The attorney is doing his job, however, he's just making things up in order to have a good defense for his client. We all have to hope and pray that justice is served in this situation. I can't imagine how Daniel's parents are feeling hearing this nonsense that this attorney is coming up with. People need to own up to their actions, actions receive consequences.
Bart
1:32 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
...and, "ALL PARENTS ARE AT FAULT". Wear ratty clothes, drive around in junkers and send your kids to Christian Schools. Is THAT who's in the Christian Shools?
I don't think so.
My kids all went to Baltimore County Public Schools, got a great education, college, and went on to good jobs and futures.
gabe probably also walked to school with bare feet, in the snow, uphill, BOTH WAYS!
Heather Rankin
2:50 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Just because the kid started dressing in the "goth look" with long hair and black nails does not predict what happened. I went through a phase in high school when I thought that was cool and I did the same thing. I also was bullied terribly in middle school and my mom had to go up the school NUMEROUS times before anything was done about it. i hate middle school because of it. Who know's if this kid was bullied or not, sometime when kids are bullied people don't see/hear about it but it still happens. And sending kids to a christian school does nothing. I know plenty of kids sent to Christian schools who throw their lives away, become drug addicts, etc. You have to have more invested in your kids. My mother was a stay at home mother, my parents were very involved in my school life and personal life. I'm thankful for that every day but most kids don't get that.
I hope Daniel makes a speedy recovery. This tragedy could have been avoided.
JD1
2:57 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Well said Heather - glad you we able to rise above the idiots that made your middle school years so miserable!
Bryan P. Sears
3:38 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
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Robert B. McArtor, RE/MAX www.MarylandHOMESTeam.com
3:44 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Very Sad. I feel horrible for this kid. Remember. He is 15. Comes from a horrible broken home. A mother that let him do anything he wants with apparently no structure at all...a step father that was not a good example at all...then you throw in Bullying on top of that...this kid was simply angry at the world at this point. Its certainly wrong to bring a gun to school no doubt...but more importantly...if anyone reads a message on facebook that looks anything like a cry for help...report it. Tell your parents..tell the police. I bet he wishes someone would have told on him before this happened...his life and the lives and many around him would be different right now.
Heather Rankin
3:54 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Whats even more sad is the amount of adults out there that also participate in bullying. I still encounter it as an adult. It's very infuriating. Not defending what this kid did, but his life may have sucked and this is how he thought he could deal with it. Which is very sad.
Linda
5:32 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
This all very interesting. The initial interviews of students on the radio said that the accused was being harassed in the cafeteria by some bullies and that had been a pattern before. Then the report said that the second shot sent off when he was tackled by the school guidance person. All of a sudden, there is no bullying.... and no relation to it. I taught for 31 years in the county in special education and watched children being overlooked even though all the signs were there including a psychological diagnosis. I would love to see the records on the shooter... was he brought up to team? were there home visits? was he receiving in school or out of school counseling? I'm not defending the child's actions, but I feel the schools have some responsibility here.
Rachel
7:32 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
http://storify.com/Truth/bullying-anywhere-to-anyone-is-wrong
Jeanne
1:10 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
The students hadn't been in school since June so there was no bulling going on for the school to know about on the first day of school so how could the school know? I don't know what happen to Bobby over the summer or the year before but there is no excuse to bring a shotgun and amunition into school. Bobby needs to pay for his crimes but he also needs help starting with getting away from his parents & stepfather.
Let's all pray Daniel has a full recovery and the family has a lot of support.
Spring Heeled Jack
10:32 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
Sick of hearing about bullying! If you are NOT roughed up physically on a daily basis or threatened by means of violence by the same individuals over and over; IT is NOT Bullying. This whole "Dr. Phil" era of bullying being defined as anything a teen doesn't like that a another teen said is BS! (oh no a teen was told shes ugly...she complains of being bullied and wants action or retaliation) Get over it. Its called a normal part of growing up; everyone deals with it one way or another.
And if Gladden's "bullying" was a result of kids telling him he looked like a freak? Easy solution. If you dress Goth... you are looking for attention and chances are its not going to be "wow you are so cool and awesome". Also teens (and adults) always hang in groups of people with similar interests and styles. If you are Goth and the school has next to no Goths... well.
When I was a teen (14-15) I was a skin head (NO not the racist kind) the working class, single parent family, home alone kind. When the idiot, racist skins took over the image I got a lot of slack from people making false assumptions about me in school. SO, I simply dropped the image (but kept my beliefs in the hard working class morals, being a realist, and saying it like it is). Then suddenly lots of kids in school didn't fear or say negative stuff to me. Solved and don't give me the identity acceptance BS. If you continue to want negative attention in school... you have serious mental issues.
DaughterOfAKing
8:49 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012
Bullying does not have to be physical. Do you have any understanding of how verbal abuse affects a child? Look at children who are verbally abused in the home. It's child abuse. Same with bullying. Wounds heal much faster than the psyche. And healing the psyche takes much more than a band-aid....so to speak.
Frank
10:09 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Where we're his parents. This kid didn't stand a chance. He couldn't get 1 good parent out of three. Just look at their history.
sherry
12:28 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
okay so everyone has put blame on the parents, the child, the school etc. etc. etc. i myself blame everyone who has ever came in contact with this child, anyone who has ever known him. the fact is we as human beings & as parents over look the obvious. sad to say an innocent boy has been shot by another disturbed child. the answer is it takes a whole tribe to raise a child. Everyone wants to raise the facts now, it's said Bobby Gladden has changed his appearance in the last few year to a Goth like look, it's said that he went from a talkative child to a very quiet to his self human being, these are all signs that were over looked by everyone, parents, teachers, piers, friends, classmates, family members & so on. pointing the finger at who was wrong in the raising & up bringing of Bobby Gladden is not the answer because we are all somewhat to blame by not noticing the signs of these disfunctional children. Bobby gladden is not the first child to act out in rage or violence & we will have a continuious of this violence if we all dont pay attention to the signs these children are giving us, by ignoring it, it will only get worse. i feel for both the children in this situation. my prayers go out to the 17 yr. old was shot & to his family ( may God give him a speedy recovery), he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time but i also pray for Bobby by not getting the proper help & guidance he faces a tougher penalty....
JD1
1:44 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Couldn't we make excuses for most violent criminals? Rough childhood, poverty, abuse, drugs, rotten parents.......we have a system of justice whose job it is to punish individuals that violate our laws in the hope that it will discourage criminal activity. Bobby is an intelligent young man who had full knowledge that if he brought a gun to school, he would face justice. He knew that if he brought ammunition to school, he would subject himself to even more dire consequences. If he only planned to intimidate kids, he would have brought a weapon without ammunition. Along with his Facebook message, he had a plan and motive to harm others. This is an adult crime and he deserves punishment according to the rule of law. If our system chooses to provide rehabilitation, that's great; however, rehabilitation cannot take the place of justice.
CDTGUY
3:14 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I read with interest the typical rhetoric of an Attorney who has one thing in mind and that is earning his fee to defend his client. My daughter Sabrina had the gun directly aimed at her which was deflected when Mr. Wasmer was able to restrain Gladden. We are blessed that Sabrina was sparred yet saddened for Daniel. Sabrina felt the blast go right past her so I question how sympathetic the Attorney would be if the child shot was one of his kids! Does he truly believe that Gladden took a loaded shotgun to school SIMPLY to scare the other kids! Even an unloaded gun would have scared anyone! My daughter was just interviewed by the Police yesterday and as I sat and listened to her recollect her story and feelings of fear to the Police, I was sickened knowing how close she and other kids came. So Psoras, I hope the puniishment for your client is swift, and severe!.Face it Psoras! Gladden went to school to kill and for no other reason! Haven't we all heard the saying that you never point a gun unless you intend to use it? Gladden intended to kill and did not care whose child he killed! My daughter was almost killed and others as well so let us focus our concern on Daniel's speedy recovery rather than Gladden's problems! I do agree that bullying is an epidemic in our schools and has to be dealt with. YET...death to innocent poeple is not an answer. Thank you Mr. Wasmer for your fast thinking and selfless act of valor.
Ryan Piercy
12:15 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I'm not gonna bother defending the poor kid since its clear a large number of criminals have similar issues. I will say that this is another incident which i believe was brought on by the zero tolerance policy. Kids get bullied, that's just life. Kids eventually get enough and strike back, that's also life. When kids cant strike back without expelled they continue to suffer until they'd rather kill or die. no i won't say that's life cause it's death. All i'm saying is by banning violence and ignoring the root problem we only made it worse. I was bullied as a kid and the teachers ignored it to such an extent that when all was said and done after i left half the school was fired. Every day i was assaulted at least once and the only reason i didn't strike back with my fist is cause i couldn't be certain who did it. That and a few times there were so many i couldn't. On a bus at another school some punk drew a knife on me thinking it would intimidate me. Since he was seated behind me i couldn't just take it so i called the bus attendant and it was confiscated, sadly there aren't attendants on most busses. My point is that while i don't know for sure the shooter could have been in the same basic situation. At that point it's impossible to know who is actually innocent. Shooting is an overreaction but in the end if you stop bullying successfully, you stop the shootings. Personally i'm in favor of a "beat up the bully day" where faculty look the other way when bullies get beat.
Doug
5:30 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
When a kid paints his finger nails black, wears a dog collar to school, and dyes his hair black, he is more than an easy target. If their was strict dress codes and appearance codes and/or uniforms, a lot of this wouldn't happen
JD1
8:35 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
School uniforms work and it's a very easy first step
David White
3:10 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
This piece of rubbish should never see the light of day. He will be let out and do this type of thing again. Don't expect justice in this case or any other.
Buck Harmon
8:50 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
It's probably a perfectly natural process that we have yet to educate ourselves about...
hopefully we are learning..
Red Dolphin
4:52 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
remember the way we dressed in the 70's ? Bell bottoms and platform shoes ? I myself dressed to emulate Rod Stewart ( or your typical british Rock star) I have to say though it was the "in thing".......... but stillI dont think the way somne one dresses should factor in to how you treat them do you ? or do you say to me "kids do "
Red Dolphin
4:53 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
im saying I wouldnt let some one try to humilate me fro being different