Kamenetz Delivers 'Essentially Flat' Budget
Furloughs, layoffs and tax increases were avoided despite bleak revenue.
UPDATED (12:13 p.m.)—There will be no income or property tax hikes in Baltimore County, but residents also won't see a lot of bells and whistles in Kevin Kamenetz's second budget since becoming county executive.
"The revenue situation remains bleak and we expect that to continue for the next several years," Kamenetz said. "We're cutting costs wherever we can."
Kamenetz was scheduled to introduce the budget Thursday morning to the Baltimore County Council. The operating budget is slightly more than $1.6 billion—what the county executive called "an essentially flat" budget.
The proposed budget covers the fiscal year that begins July 1.
The county executive said he will use about $40 million in surplus funds to cover a gap in revenues—the third consecutive year the county has used so-called one-time money to fund ongoing expenses.
The move will still leave the county with a projected surplus of $250 million, including $85 million in the county's rainy day fund.
One cost cutting move was the elimination of more than 300 positions through a voluntary early retirement program.
The county hoped to save up to $15 million annually through the retirement of 200 employees. More than 600 people applied for the early retirement incentive.
Kamenetz said the county ultimately approved 310 people for the program and as a result will save $21 million annually.
The job reductions bring the total number of non-public safety general government employees to 3,340—the lowest number in 25 years.
Despite the bleak revenue outlook, Kamenetz said he will not raise income or property taxes this year— the 20th and 24th years respectively that those rates have not increased.
The operating budget as introduced tops out at just over $1.6 billion. Excluding cash for some one-time payments, that include some construction projects, the proposed budget is $3 million less than the budget for the current year—a 1 percent increase for FY 2013 over the current fiscal year budget, according to information released by the county executive.
Earlier this year, the County Council's Spending Affordability Committee recommended limiting budget growth to 3 percent or about $47 million.
The county executive said the focus remains on core government operations, including education and public safety.
Approximately 52 cents of every county dollar goes to education this year.
Included in that budget is an additional 124 teaching positions. Kamenetz praised outgoing Baltimore County Public Schools Superintendent Joe Hairston for eliminating 50 non-classroom jobs while adding the new teachers.
Last year, the system eliminated nearly 200 teacher positions through attrition.
Hairston, in an interview after Kamenetz's speech, said many of the new positions will go to high schools for Chinese language instructors as well as science and math. Additional special education teachers will also be hired.
Kamenetz's budget also includes $149 million in capital budget projects for the school system—a 36 percent increase over last year.
Bond money for school projects makes up nearly 60 percent of the county executive's total request this year. If approved, that request will go before voters in November.
Included in that request is the completion of the Hampton Elementary School addition. The county will also fully fund the renovation of Stoneleigh Elementary School.
Kamenetz also earmarked more than $74 million for the construction of a 200-seat addition to Sparks Elementary school, the construction of a new 700-seat elementary school in Mays Chapel and another elementary school in the northwest area of the county, as well as an addition and renovation of Hereford High School.
Ten schools will receive air conditioning including:
- Catonsville Elementary
- Fort Garrison Elementary
- Sudbrook Magnet Middle
- Timonium Elementary
- Franklin Elementary
- Hebbville Elementary
- Woodmoor Elementary
- Middleborough Elementary
- Hereford High School (part of renovations)
- Stoneleigh Elementary (part of renovations)
State Comptroller Peter Franchot praised Kamenetz for moving ahead with air conditioning for the ten schools.
"Sweltering classrooms compromise the safety of our students, teachers and support staff, diminish school morale, and erode the quality of the learning experience for everyone," said Franchot. "The county executive deserves credit for making this investment in climate control, particularly in light of the ongoing fiscal challenges that continue to face Baltimore County as a result of the sluggish economy. I am optimistic that he will continue to take steps in future years to address the conditions of those schools in Baltimore County that remain without air conditioning."
Kamenetz will also spend about $73 million on new equipment for the county including:
- $13 million for new breathing apparatus, 21 medic units and two ladder trucks for the fire department.
- $26 million for heavy equipment for the Department of Public Works' Bureau of Solid Waste, Bureau of Utilities and snow removal operations.
- $34 million for new technology and equipment
Public Citizen
10:27 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Well there is much I could say but for now, the only thing I want to say is that a "Essentially Flat budget" was delivered by an "Essentially Flat" County Executive.
Matthew
10:46 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
More evidence of a simple fact: He could care less about the eastside of this county.
Keep spreading dollars on the westside, you are going to need their votes in two years.
Donna
10:50 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
An "essentially flat County Executive" who one one hand says he is trying to save money and on the other refuses to implement a volunteer program in the shelter that would save not only lives but also a lot of taxpayer money.
Carla Carr
11:40 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Does he expect applause for this "flat" budget?! His lack of support for education and animal rights says volumes about his loyalty to the county and how he himself earns that paycheck.
johnny towson
11:03 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
This Budget update was created and presented by the man whom views himself as the creator and leader of the "ideas county of the region." The "ideas" leader describes his own vision as "flat" and circumstances as "bleak" with no optimism of improvement in the near future. Way to fire 'em up. And he wanted $4000 a ticket to attend his VIP fundraiser.
There is no idle position, we are moving forward or moving backward.
Scott Sewell
11:40 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Well, I'm pleased that there will be no increase in the income or property tax rates, but because of re-assessments my property tax has doubled over the past 17 years! Go figure.
FactChecker
10:41 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
The County has no control over the assessments, which are conducted by the State once every three years. The County does establish the tax rate that is applied against the assessment. The proposed budget proposes no increase in the tax rate for the 24th year in a row, and falls under the constant yield rate.
K Blue
11:40 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
I am pleased to see that the County Executive has presented and prioritized a systemic approach to the long-standing overcrowding and climate control issues in this County and done so, according to this article, with minimal impact to the County taxpayers. It is long overdue. I hope all goes as planned.
johnny towson
11:40 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012
From earlier in the Budget process:
"As we manage this budget going forward, the pain is going to be shared," Mohler said.
Spread it around, plenty of pain for everyone.
Barbh
12:07 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
I wonder how they decide which schools will get air conditioning. What about Westowne and the rest of the schools without air conditioning?
Cathy Fialkowski
12:19 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Well I believe Middleborough Elementary is on the list because in the last year a few parents, including myself, made ALOT of noise complaining about it. Maybe you heard about our offer to buy our own window units? That didn't go over so well. I guess that's what you have to do though.
Brian H
12:19 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
They take the hottest ones first.
Brian H
12:19 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
These comments are a living testament to the fact that you can't please everybody. As a lifelong (and tax paying) resident of Baltimore County, it is refreshing to see a politician who embraces the fiscal responsibility of his position. Excellent job Executive Kamenetz!
moe green
8:45 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
what fiscal responsibilty?
there should have been a property tax reduction.
and the firing of kamenentz's buddies, sam moxley and slimey vince gardina
Ray Loomis
8:45 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Thank you, You got it right.
FactChecker
10:42 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
Baltimore County has not proposed to increase the tax rate, although Anne Arundel County, Montgomery County, and Wicomico County, has.
johnny towson
12:58 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
@ Brian,
No you cannot please everyone. But when the County Executive makes an Administrative effort to cut the people and the County Council out of the process, he becomes an agent for divisive politics and an impediment to progress. No matter what good is reported or attempted, as long as the people feel marginalized, he will never have the desired support of the tax payers. He is too arrogant and unlikeable for any concessions. He is fueling the angst in the community by making us choose: "Him" or the county... It is clear, people do not like him, trust him, believe him and now they do not believe IN him... The County Council has the attention of the Voters and we can only hope that they find the strength and courage to speak with a common voice.
Richard Hiteshew
12:58 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Just goes to show that you can't please everyone. Hold the line and reduce the number of employees and people complain. Raise taxes like the General assembly and people complain. Kevin will make a good Governor.
johnny towson
1:45 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Richard, positions were eliminated, not people.
runandfetch
9:50 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
You're kidding, right? Baltimore County wouldn't even vote for this guy.
Lex Lutherville
12:58 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Can someone tell me if the $1.6 Billion includes pension payments to those individuals "double dipping" into the system?
Buzz Beeler
1:45 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Four years ago I spoke about the the county's pending budget woes and people scoffed at me. I say they will get worse. Each penny increase at the pumps drains $1 billion out of the economy. Apply the trickle down theory to that dilemma.
A quote from the article, "Bond money for school projects makes up near 60 percent of the county executive's total request this year. If approved, that request will go before voters in November." Bonds involving borrowing money. That involves paying interest. That involves debt.
Then of course there is this little ditty.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bs-md-budget-local-impact-20120411,0,4101231.story
The county's budget may be done (in) but the story is far from over. The uncertainty in Annapolis will loom largely.
Ed
7:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
Buzz, you make some fair points as far as the big picture is concerned, but I would point out that by 2008, red flags were up in every county from Garrett to Worcester and every municipality from Oakland to Ocean City. I agree it will probably get worse before it gets better. I do question your talk about using bonds. From a public policy perspective, it makes good sense to use bonds for long-term capital projects. Schools generally have a 40-year shelf life before being closed or receiving a major renovation. Spreading that cost over much of the life of those who use the facility makes sense IF: interest rates are reasonable (and that sure is the case these days) and the jurisdiction involved is not overextending its borrowing. Based on the county's bond rating,I'd say there is lots of faith in the market that the county is borrowing wisely.
Josephine Hlatki
3:53 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Isn't it facinating how we can manage when forced to make do with a smaller budget? I've beed doing it for over 40 years in raising a family and we're not in debt. the way MD and DC are. We had a paycheck, and based our spending on that...period! If there wasn't enough, then cut back on something not absolutely necessary.
Golly....does this mean DC could manage, too, without taxing and spending us to death? A smaller budge that they have no choice but to work with.....What a novel idea!
Uhhhh, excuse me....but did I see Chinese language instructors in that school budget? I'm trying to rationalize that one. Anyone have an answer for that? Wonder what else could be cut back on?
At the risk of sounding like the old woman who tells the story about how many miles she had to walk to school in the snow and ice without shoes or coat as a child....we never had AC in schools. We opened the windows and survived. Not only that, our grades were much better than students these days. Try putting windows in the classrooms that actually open. Most of them are permanently sealed, creating the oven effect. They should be more concerned about how to get the children out in a fire when the corridors are blocked with flames.
I say give the Government's budget management to a handful of housewives who kept their budget balanced for a number of years and before we know it, this State and Country will be well on the way to recovery.
Ed
7:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
Not in debt...so that means you paid cash for your cars, and cash for your house..or did you rent? I agree the Chinese language program is something that should be cut. True, we didn't have AC in schools, but there were no 180-day requirements back then, we didn't start the school year until after Labor Day and ended by the first week in June. Also, at least in Carroll County, many of the schools are used in summer for either remedial or enrichment programs or for summer services for kids with special needs. As for windows, you act like schools are the only modern buildings built that way.Ever seen an office building (low- or high-rise) constructed over the last 40 years with enough operating windows to allow for good air flow. Modern building codes don't encourage it. And the real problem was in the 60s and 70s,when they started building schools like this but were too cheap to install AC. (Wasn't a problem for office buildings,developers had a financial incentive to put in AC --- the market.)
You say our grades were much better then. You base that observation on what statistics? I went to well regarded Catholic elementary and high schools (graduated in 1975) in Towson and my kids in public schools are learning stuff at a much faster rate than we did back in my day --- algebra in middle schools, many areas of science years before I was taught them, and far better teaching for kids with special needs than public OR private schools ever thought of back in the 60s and 70s...
Bon
5:03 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
I had the "honor" of meeting Mr. Kamenetz last summer, believe me i was not impressed.People complained about Jim Smith, but at least he was a people person and did not come with a fake smile. Jim Smith also took the time to listen to people He was at a parade our community had and was in such a hurry to leave.Our residents were not impressed either...but then what do you expect..we live on the EAST SIDE of the county.I will say his Asst. Bryan has more personality and is more friendly then the county executive is.At least Bartenfelder is a local and was for everybody no matter who you where and he knew what is was like to work and still does for what he has ...not just west side and for money.
Really ...chinese language...how about ALL schools and students being treated and receiving the same...and not by how much the parents make or don't make.I am not for or against the air conditioning issue, but i do feel there are more important things our schools need.
JDStuts
8:45 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Bon,
I suppose you won't be to surprised to learn KK's kids are too good for county schools.
What's the point of a people's representative, a Democrat no less, who won't send his kids to the schools he is supposed to fight for?
Barbh
8:45 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
There is no more important thing our schools need than air conditioning. Obviously, the people commenting do not see our children when they get out of school in hot weather (in August or late June which did not happen when I was in school). The kids look very hot and actually sick. Their faces are flushed and sometimes they need to see the nurse. People that are used to air conditioning which I believe most of us are do not have the right to say our kids can live without it. They can't. Also, I would be very willing to chip in and buy the units ourselves but we would have to push that one. It's that important to me that these children have this necessity (it's not a luxury). They really need it.
Buck Harmon
7:32 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
Sue the County if you feel that your children are being subjected to unhealthy conditions caused by poor design and planning of schools.
Brian H
8:07 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
It is just another example of how weak Americans (and their children) have become. Perhaps if the kids (and their parents) would take their chubby little fingers off their keyboards, get off their "super-sized" butts and engage in physical activity they wouldn't need to see the nurse when it gets hot. In my neighborhood we aspired to the lowest rung of the socioeconomic ladder and as a child never had AC at home or in school. I am doing well now through hard work and determination. Adversity builds strength. Quit crying America and abandon your sense of entitlement. Taxes are so high because everybody wants something, but no one wishes to sacrifice.
shoebuyer
8:07 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
When I was going to schools back in the 60s-70s, we didn't have air conditioning and we never got sent home for hot days. We all survived.
K Blue
10:35 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
When I attended school way back when (30 years ago), we didnt have air conditioning either, but the conditions were totally different. Back then, we were able to prop open the windows and the outside door to cross-ventilate. Sometimes, we moved class outside and were served popsicles. Now, with windows that dont open at all (or only open partially by design) and security concerns/lockdowns on school facilities which prevent propped doors or open windows, that is not possible. I dont think its as simple as an entitlement mentality or lack of general good health. The present conditions create an unhealthy environment for these students and their teachers, not to mention a less-than-ideal environment in which to learn or teach. It can be likened to spending 7 hours in a car with your windows up and the heat turned up to 90 degrees. We require students to attend school, and spend all this money on materials, teachers, etc. to teach them, but it simply doesnt matter for certain months of the year as most of these students are half-asleep, fatigued, lethergic, etc. because of conditions over which they have no control. Last I heard, the schools wont even let parents pay for installation of units.
Josephine Hlatki
9:50 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Sorry if you didn't read my entire post about the AC.....if the BofE in their infinite wisdom didn't seal our children up in hot boxes, there wouldn't be such a dire need for the AC. I didn't mean that they should live without it under those conditions. I was being critical of the really stupid things the Board does to our children.
Josephine Hlatki
9:50 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
Remember to vote for the opposite of KK and OWE Malley next election.
FactChecker
10:44 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
The writer is a Republican.
Ed
12:03 pm on Saturday, April 21, 2012
Gee, great bit of detective work there, FactChecker. What difference does it make.I'm a Democrat. We are all entitled to our opinions.
Bon
9:50 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012
JD-that does not surprise me at all.I am a democrat..but I definitely don't agree with him . I didn't vote for him then and I would not vote for him next time. Barbh-I did not say schools do not need ac. I know first hand how it is in schools, but I also know how sometimes by april there is no copy paper, glue,paper towels and other supplies because the budget is empty.I also know of the cuts in school money which means classrooms assistant positions were taken away. large classes due to not enough teachers. These are the important things i am talking about.As for ac in schools i do agree,unfortunately ,the people that make these decisions are not in a classroom or they don't have kids our school system.
Nolan James
8:07 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
Thanks Kevin. The budget is great. Very excited about the air conditioning. Also pleased there are no tax increases. When I read the above comments I am reminded of what is wrong with politics today. Even when someone does something good the other side gives no credit-- and both republicans and democrats are guilty of that. It's ashame. I appreciate what you did here.
Bob Weiner
8:48 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
I live in Essex and have grandchildren in Middleborough Elementary School. I didn't vote for Kaminits the first time but I will the next time. I admit it I'm selfish. I care about taxes and grandchildren.
johnny towson
9:14 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
With no economic development plan, positive vision and proactive approach to County Government, KK will be "forced" to raise taxes next year or continue to shuffle funding from department to department. While schools, A/C and lip-service to public works & safety have been made, it is a band-aid on a stab wound. The infection is coming by way of a complete meltdown of services and quality issues. His plan is to do everything he can NOT to raise taxes and get elected for a second term. That is a terrible and selfish way to be a County Executive. The writing is on the wall; it is 100% inevitable unless serious changes and amendments are made to creating jobs and investment in the county.
Harry Callahan
8:48 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
I have an idea for all of the people who are complaining about their schools not being air conditioned. Why don't you put down your beer, put out that cigarette, tear up those losing lotttery tickets and get up off of your backsides and get down to your school or the next PTA meeting and volunteer to work on a fund raiser to put air conditioning into your school? How is that for an idea? Maybe if enough parents would begin to deny themselves a few of their pleasures (the aforementioned beer, cigarettes, and lottery tickets) and start to get active in their child's education, then the county might listen when you come to them and say, "We worked hard to reaise funds and now we have X thousand dollars that we want to have dedicated towards putting A/C in the school my child attends." This is the kind of grassroots activism that GETS THINGS DONE. Sitting back and bitching about how no one in county government is getting anything done about a problem never achieves anything.
By the way, when my two children were in elementary and high school, I worked 3 JOBS to pay to put them through parochial elementary and high school so don't cry to me about how tough your job is and how you don't have the time to get this done.
Bart
10:42 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
Agreed.
Brian H
2:16 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Harry this is the age of entitlement. How dare you insult these people with that dirty four letter word "work". It is much easier to whine and stick out your hand for the government to do the work. Like you, I currently work (and have worked) multiple jobs thropughout my life. I am tired of tax dollars funding other people's wants.
Bart
2:16 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
My comment: "Agreed" does not belong here. I was agreeing with Buck's opinion that the "Pending Approval" sounds socialist. I do not agree with Harry's comments.
Bart
9:14 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
The PTA cannot raise funds to Air Condition schools.
I think Kamenetz has probably done the best he can in these tough times, and he can't please everybody. That being said, he is doing a lousy job as County Executive, he must communicate with the county council and stop playing childish games. They have the right, and the RESPONSIBILITY to act for their constituents.
Kamenetz hasn't gotten the message.
Harry Callahan
2:16 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Why can't the PTA raise money to air condition the schools? If there is a statute that prevents the PTA from raising funds and earmarking them for air conditioning the schools, then that law needs to be changed. If you are saying that the amount of money would be too high, then it might take multiple years of fund raising to pay for the air conditioning. Either way, the sooner you begin a project, the sooner it is completed.
Bart
8:07 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012
When my kids were in an un A/C school in the 90's, the PTA suggested this approach. It was denied. The units become part of the structure of the school, subject to maintenance and liability issues and a lot of other bureaucratic controls. The county won't allow them.
Harry Callahan
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
"The county won't allow it" goes down in the annals of idiocy along with statements like "We can't change that because it's the way we always do things here." The county WILL allow it if enough VOTERS contact their reps and tell them that we, the VOTERS and TAXPAYERS of Baltimore County want it to be that way. By the way, EVERYONE should visit this web site: http://actionmail.ksconline.net/ to find an extremely easy way to get in youch with your legislators via email.
Buck Harmon
9:39 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
I would liken his in-ability to communicate fairly with the County Council to being a bad sport.... he was probably benched a few times growing up.
If you can't be good at a very tough task at least be fair....
Buck Harmon
9:39 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
Pending Approval sounds a little socialist...
Barbh
11:10 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
I'm going to try again to raise some interest in the a/c issue at my community's elementary shool. I guess I can start with the principal and go from there. The last time I brought it up, I didn't get much interest because people probably felt it was a lost cause. I would hope BCPS would allow parents to raise funds for the a/c but I'm sure they have inspection/installation requirements. I hadn't heard that the schools won't allow it.
Harry Callahan
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
You should visit this web site: http://actionmail.ksconline.net/ to find an extremely easy way to get in youch with your legislators via email. It;s an easy way to send multiple emails to multiple legislators while writing one email. Keep your email short, unequivocal, and to the point. Example, "I and several other members of our PTA want to raise funds that we will donate to Baltimore County only if those funds can be earmarked to install and maintain an air conditioning system at XYZ Elementary school. Is this legal and possible? If not, then please quote the exact chapter and verse of the law that makes this illegal and send it along to me. Then, tell me what YOU are going to do to CHANGE this law so that it WILL BE POSSIBLE for us to undertake this project."
When you receive a reply, post it on this and any other web site you can think of.
Buzz Beeler
11:56 am on Friday, April 13, 2012
Buck, I have used the term people are voting with their feet. Take a look at one of Bryan's earlier articles.
http://towson.patch.com/blog_posts/baltimore-county-lost-8000-taxpayers
This is the destabilization I was talking about. The middle class flees as the value of their homes drop along with the tax revenues.
Here is another ominous sign.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-02-23/news/bs-md-cns-working-families-baltimore-county-20120223_1_sufficiency-child-care-subsidy-program-baltimore-county
Another interesting concept involves the government sector jobs. As state, local and federal government agencies put into place austerity measures, Maryland counties will share the burden of that impact.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm
The unemployment rate in the county is high. The county ranks 11th out of 24 jurisdictions in the state. This is an interesting analogy in the county ranks 12th in health care among those 24 jurisdictions.
Reality is a funny thing, there is no way of getting around it in the end.
Ed
10:51 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
Buzz,
Using your logic of people moving when the value of their homes goes down, there'd be very few places in this country where people would have been moving to in the last 5 or 6 years. In fact, the 60 year old row home in Towson that I grew up in (and still own) has held its value better than the 4 bedroom with attached garage single family home on a quarter acre that I live in way out in Taneytown since 2007. And heaven knows the political leadership in Carroll County is nothing to do cartwheels over (although I do think officials in my town do a good job).
Ed
10:51 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012
By the way, to clarify, the 2007 date is used to reference the approximate start of the down turn. This house was built in the late 1980s and I'm the original owner. My dad was the original owner of the house in Towson in 1959.
Buzz Beeler
12:21 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Ed, I'm looking at the overall picture. Today's Sun has more bad news for the counties. The pain ain't over yet. Seventy mil is a lot of money. By law they must balance the budget.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bs-md-budget-not-balanced-20120413,0,960092.story
This will not help either. Until local leaders learn that the giveaways are over and the reality of economics instead of the spin, Baltimore County and the State will continue their downward turn.
Go back and look at the census figures. The city is counting on illegals to replace those fleeing but the one thing they forgot was the cost of those illegals on the taxpayers.
The House Judiciary Committee reported a cost of $89,000 per illegal without a high school education.
This won't help the housing market either.
http://www.gazette.net/article/20120227/NEWS/702279947/maryland-s-housing-market-still-too-fragile-to-cap-deductions-agents&template=gazette
johnny towson
7:24 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Thank you for the feedback Ron. The budget itself is not the focus of my comments. The budget does what it needs to do. My concern lies with what is not being done to remedy the dire circumstances the county faces. The Administration's apathy and lack of willingness has helped necessitate the budget and its structure. It is not the economies fault; the economy makes it harder, but better leadership from the County Executive's office and down, would better position the County to recover and thrive. The Administration is doing as little as it has to, to survive until next election. A "good enough" attitude is not what I want in my county's executive. I want to see Baltimore County be the best it can be. Nothing outstanding was done in this budget cycle. What had to be done was reported as done: a little shuffle here, a little shuffle there, and lots of spin. What lies ahead, is insane cronyism at the expense of the County's health. This Administration is rumored to be: on a collision course with Federal Investigators, is restructuring departments to pad budgets and influence decisions, and using their positions to profit, improve retirements and advance individual careers, while the good people of the County struggle. That is intolerable. When you campaign on the promise of being the "ideas county of the region" and this is the best you can do, it is a complete failure.
Ron Burgundy
9:48 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Accusations without detail falls on deaf ears.Be specific,you say padding budgets,who,how.Yes there has been restructuring and consolodation,which makes sense. Everyone wants gov't to run like a business. Well everyone I see is consolidating and cutting,just like our county. Be specific Ginny or pleas fade away.
Brian H
2:54 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
@Ed, Spaulding makes about 106,000 if I am not mistaken. With the exception of his second in command, his Majors and Captains (also Howard County PD retirees) make a higher salary than their LE counterparts within Carroll County. Regrettably, his officers are some of the lowest paid in the county and they just removed their take home car option. The Westminster Town Administration also structured themselves a nice pay scale.
I have a unique approach to my personal budget; I purchase what I can afford, pay cash whenever I can, and spend within my means. Paid cash for my cars, pay off the credit balance monthly, and wil be paying off my house 10 years early. I am beginning to think this borders on genius...fiscal restraint...and delayed gratification.
Ed
3:16 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Brian H., I admire your fiscal restraint. Sadly, its much easier for us as individuals to tell our family "no" than it is for politicians to tell us "no." For all the comments on here about how KK is spending too much, there are education advocates in Baltimore County screaming that he is short chaning the schools. As for Spaulding's salary, your numbes may be more accurate than mine. I think I may have read them on a post to a Carroll County Times story, so bad on me for not researching. That said, you are right about the pay of the Westminster city cops, but then, sheriff's deputies up here don't make squat either. And our Sheriff only makes $75,000 to basically now be our police chief, head of corrections and court security. On the other hand, he's retired MSP so his pension is probably pretty good.
Ron Burgundy
7:24 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
@buzz-you are such a soothsayer, only you knew we were in trouble financially.Is that why the teachers were walking the streets protesting the pension plan.Is that why negotiations have been going on for some time with all unions,why plans were put in place to get folks off the payroll.I'm sure that thought just came up last November. Please Buzz,there are others inside the county that saw this long before you,so sit down and take a break from patting yourself on the back. Which brings us around to just how well the Exec and team are managing the County. I know how hard it is for you to say but why not give it a try.C'mon it won't hurt,really.Then you can go back to your daily rants spitting out the hate.
Barbh
9:48 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Am I right about this? Is it true that employees and the employer both contribute to pension plans? Is the employer contribution paid by the county or State? When they talk about transferring the pension costs from the State to the county, wouldn't that be a huge amount of money that the county would now be responsible for? How can the Governor just come up with that one day and slap that expense on the counties? They will just go under. Am I missing something here?
Ed
8:07 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Barb, here is what you are missing: the state pays for the teacher's pension (librarians and community college faculty too, I think) but the state doesn't have a seat at the barganing table. So espcially in high salaried counties like Howard and Montgomery, the state is on the hook for very generous pensions (usually based on salary in the years before retirement). The problem is, the state has dumped 50 percent of this load back onto the counties in one year. What SHOULD have happened,is the state should have shifted 100 percent of the cost back to the locals, but phased it in (20 yueard at 5% a year, 15 at 6.67% or absolute worst, 10 at 10%).The other problem now it the counties will be paying into a pension system that they don't manage. In my plan, during the phase in, the county would be putting their money into one of their existing pension plans that they use to pay the pension for cops,fiurefighters,public works and office workers.
Ed
8:07 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012
...this is a continuation of my post below.....
The other issue, and I say this as a public employee (state), is that our generous pensions are not sustainable, including for cops and firefighters. I work with lots of retirees from those disciplines, and those that put in their 30 years and have earned the rank of lieutenant or higher in the state or most of the larger counties are pulling down pensions not too far shy of six figures, then making anywhere from $75,000 on up in their seconbd careers at the state, federal or private sector in fields like security, emergency management or homeland security. In general, I don't begrudge them their pensions because I have never had to run into a burning building to save someone, face down a knucklehead with a gun (as a certain police commissioner likes to call them) or pull a mangled body out of a wrecked automoblie. But at some point, all of us in the public sector are going to have to have a reality check on our defined benefit pensions.
Brian H
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
@Ed, Not certain where you pull your numbers Ed. Retired Lieutenant from the Baltimore City PD with 25 years of service. My pension (which I consider generous) is slightly above $40,000 a year. I work a second job that pays under 40,000. You are correct in that my Baltimore County (& PG) counterparts receive DROP benefits and pensions that are cost prohibitive and not sustainable for the taxpayer. The recent article about Baltimore County PD retired Majors and Captains receiving DROP payouts of one half million dollars and pensions that exceed $170,000 per year is an obscenity. Unfortunately, that was born of former executive Smith currying favor with the PD to garner more votes and win elections. My medical copay increased several thousand dollars per year post retirement, while my Baltimore County and PG counterparts pay the same as active members. To hear Mayor Blake complain about the pension benefits of sworn Baltimore City PD members for working in a war zone is laughable compared to the surrounding jurisdictions. By the way, I will receive no increase in my pension benefits for 15 years.
Ed
7:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
Brian, I work with one city PD alum and he rarely talks about his pension (and now I know why). But I was traveling to a meeting once with two of my colleagues who are retired FD Lieutenants. The one from the city maxed out at about $108,000 while the one from the county maxed out at $113,000. Don't know how OT factrored in and they may have been in for 30 years, but I'm sure their pensions are way more than $40,000 and I know that their salaries (and also that for the retired city PD guy) are all way above $40,000. Given all of the retired cops and FFs I see at the state and federal levels and working for consultants, I'd say your in the wrong second career,my friend! Hell, there's a retired Howard County PD guy pulling down $125,000 as the police chief in Westminster. (Don't remember his rank when he retired from HoCo.)
Buzz Beeler
9:48 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
Ron, show where I use the word "hate?" How much time do you have with the county? If you saw it why didn't you stop it? I'm working on a blog for next week that will reveal some issues that you speak of.
Not only did no one stop it the bill was rubber stamped.
Do you bother to read the links I post, or do you just spout off without any knowledge of the facts. It does help when one is informed.
" ... saw this long before you ..."
"...brings us around to just how well the Exec and team are managing the County."
So what your are saying is that the administration which has been running the county for the last 16 plus years saw this coming and did nothing to stop it.
Just got a call from a friend of mine on his cell phone and he observed a lady in front of him purchase $130 worth of groceries using an Independence Card and when he walked outside they were being loaded into a brand new Chrysler.
Who's managing that Ron?
Ron Burgundy
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
So Buzz,so now you saw it 16 years ago? You a amazing.But in reality you said 4 and my point was the Admin. Saw this before then as I pointed out the teacher protests well before the budge shortfalls.You hate him but Fred Homan might be one of the best fiscal managers of any municipality in the Country,his track record speaks for itself.Look at some facts. Lowest number of employees in 25 years, no tax increases for 20+ years,improving schools with much needed AC,continuing to improve technology. Please tell me what County wouldn't 't want this budget.
I read your post about the Northpoint meeting tomorrow I hope you are respectful as you 've asked the citizens to be.Please listen and as hard as it is for you don't come with an agenda.And un fortunately NO Buzz I am not an employee but simply a life long resident that's tired of the hate and venom that continually comes out from many on this site.We have a great County,not without problems but your tack never solves anything. And BTW where's the 'atta boy for the exec and team on the budget. C'mon Buzz it won't hurt,say they did a good job.
Buck Harmon
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
I respect the fact that Buzz consistently provides source links to the information that is shared in these..and other blogs...requires much more commitment than most that post....
Buck Harmon
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Pending Approval still sounds like a socialist term...
Buck Harmon
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Maybe it's the purple box..
Brian H
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
@Buzz...and I just saw ANOTHER story about a hedge fund manager who siphoned money from the market without offering anything productive in return. Or the commodities brokers who to continue the artificial inflation of gas prices, which separates supply from demand and compromises a fundamental precept of the free market. Or corporate executives who want the tax system restructured, who conveniently forget to mention that numerous studies support the fact they manipulate tax laws and capatilize on loopholes (crafted by their favorite bought and paid for legislators). In reality some of these companies (like GE) paid zero TAXES WHILE CONTINUING TO MOVE JOBS OVERSEAS. The inequities abound Buzz. On a positive note, at least the woman buying the groceries purchased an American made vehicle :)
Wes Mantooth
10:25 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
"Ron Burgundy" you are hilarious. "I'm not an employee, just a resident." Right. Now tell the class your true status, which is a County APPOINTEE - technically different than an employee - but still paid by the County. And definitely far beyond "simply a life long resident."
Ron Burgundy
9:48 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012
@jdstuts-in the words of one of your heroes and possible future vp candidate,Gov Chris Christie,"it's none of your dam business where I choose to send my kids to school". So please take a seat in the back of the class JD until you come up with something relevant.
Ed
8:07 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012
I'm not a big Christie fan, but I will say I think its more relevant for a local elected official than for a state official.
Buzz Beeler
8:07 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Ron you haven't answered my question yet? Do you know how many public school students are eligible for free meals in the county? Do you know what the county's debt and interest on the bond issues are?
I hope you find these relevant questions, since you brought up the issue. It might take you a couple of days to read the budget (s).
Ron Burgundy
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
So Buzz you're now advocating for tax increases? Buzz,just admit,given the economic times we live in this is a good budget,c'mon Buzz I know you can do it.It won't ruin your standing as the president of the "I hate the administration of Baltimore County"club. Yes we have issues,I'll say again are we not better off than the majority of counties around the state and one of the best in the Country. Spit it out Buzz say something positive for once.
To Ed,no it's not relevant where any elected official chooses to send their kids,they have every right to send them wherever they want.What's relevant is whether they are advocates for education,by their actions. I think you'll find our exec is an advocate for education issues.
Ed
7:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
Ron, I said it was relevant, not that they didn't have the right to send their kids to school wherever they want. I'm a product of Catholic schools but send my kids to public schools, so I've seen alot of these arguments from both sides. Though I don't live in Baltimore County, I own property there (the house I grew up in) and likely will move back there in a few years. I was much more of a Bartenfelder fan (disclaimer: I went to high school with him) than a fan of KK, but i'm not on the warpath against KK and this budget seems reasonable given the economic times. But I also think Buzz makes some reasonable points about the bigger picture, as per my comments about public sector pensions (including mine) and many people's sense of entitlement..
Ted Baxtertedm
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
This Buzz and JohnnyT are the best medicine to get me smiling in the morning. They are so silly that it is hard to believe they are real people. I've lived a number of places and I've seen people be mad when their person didn't win an election, but these guys are the gold medal winners. I hope they keep posting, because it's the best comedy around these days. As an independent, I hope the CE continues to work to keep my taxes down. Go Johnny. Go Buzz. I need some more laughs.
Buzz Beeler
8:57 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Ted, you know how you can pick out someone speaking for the administration? Look at how many times they comment. I see this is your first. All of that pent-up frustration over those that are informed and actually do research took a while for you to get it out I see.
I love your quote since rather than getting you smiling in the morning it took you until 6:52 pm on Sunday to post it. Must have been one heck of a laugh.
"This Buzz and JohnnyT are the best medicine to get me smiling in the morning. They are so silly that it is hard to believe they are real people." Trust me, I'm real. I'm working on a blog about bill 47-07. You remember that one don't you? Us silly people do.
If I'm wrong then debate me on the issues, not some rhetoric about an election. That is long over and things might be different if the county, state and country weren't in hock up to their eyeballs.
Amazing how many questions I ask about facts and never get an answer. Not one!
Bob Kennedy
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Here's what I care about-- taxes, taxes, taxes. Baltimore County is the only place that gets it.
Brian H
6:52 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
@Buzz, Since you are tasking others with research how about explaining the "free market" dynamic that divorces success from compensation. How many corporate executives have mismanaged their companies to bankruptcy, yet walked away with multimillion dollar "golden parachutes". We love to focus on the woman with the Independence card buying steak. How about the corporate executive, who is the picture of excess and gluttony, who destroys the lives of others by creating mass unemployment through avarice and inept management?
Josephine Hlatki
8:57 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
All this complaining we do from our armchairs. Contacting legislators is great, but don't forget to volunteer for the Republican Campaigns to get tax fighters and job advocates elected or re-elected. Here are 2 Towson Candidates for you to sign up with:
CD 1 Incumbent Congressman Andy Harris http://www.andyharris.com/
CD 2 Senator Nancy Jacobs for Congress against Dutch Ruppersberger http://nancyjacobsforcongress.com/
Ron Burgundy
9:54 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
No new taxes,again,why can't you applaud the Exec? Is it that hard to give praise to a democrat?
Buzz Beeler
9:54 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Dutch is trying to ram the Fort Howard LLC down the throats of the community. I talked to a rep at the VA and mostly got "I can't comment on that."
It will be very interesting how this plays out especially given the facts of what's going on behind the scenes.
Dutch needs to read the Government Audit Report on the VA and these EUL issues and he might want to rethink some of his remarks.
Ed
7:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
And these candidates are going to help with the county and state fiscal isssues (the focus of this story) how???????????
Buzz Beeler
9:54 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Brian, are you justifying that kind of entitlement spending? Who do you think allows for that type of conduct? It ain't the taxpayers. What did Barney Frank say right before the bubble burst?
Whose is the presidents job czar? Ever hear of Solyndra?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra_loan_controversy
Here is another one for you to read.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/09/fannie-freddie-executive-pay-limited-bonuses-cut-under-pressure-from-congress/
Brian, the one thing you forget is that the people at the top make the decisions that allow for the fleecing of the taxpayers and how you can find a way to justify that is beyond me.
I have written many times of the national scandals that have a trickle down effect.
Brian H
2:44 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Buzz, I love how you choose to selectively address points in my posting that fit your agenda, yet completely ignore the other statements. Keep the blinders on partner.
Ron Burgundy
9:54 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Buzz,think for yourself,no links,like that makes you smart. Answer the question,are you happy there are no tax increases.Is this a good budget,just say it,no links,have a thought.
Buzz Beeler
7:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
Ron, I am astounded that given the complex situation we face today, not only in this county, but state and country as well, you break everything down into one sentence.
In school when you were told to open a book and read, what did you do? Are you suggesting that you know everything about county government that you don't have to research anything?
I do have thoughts and I back them up with facts, not opinions. Those facts are hard and cold.
If you want to hear an opinion listen to this one. It's a school teacher from the county.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee-irZd_R6c
You want my opinion? You feel alright with the county having one of the highest unemployment rates in the state? You feel OK with the county being ranked in the lower half regarding health care?
Take a look at the bond debt which increased $291 million while the net assets
decreased by $116 million.
Why do you think they are calling the states budget (upon which the county relies) the dooms day budget?
By the way the board of ed budget was $24 million in the hole before the game began.
You feel OK with over half of our school children qualifying for the free meals programs.
You should read up on these issues, it might open your eyes.
johnny towson
8:28 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
If diagnosed with recurring cancer, and the Doctor said, great news, No New Chemo. We are going to cut off your leg, and stitch some toes to your face. Should I be excited?
Ed
10:13 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
Depends. If that means the cancer is gone, then,yeah, it beats the heck out of the alternative.
johnny towson
11:45 am on Monday, April 16, 2012
@ Ed,
While you brag about being having avoided treatment because your doctor said taking your leg and stitching toes to your face was the best he could do to treat your symptoms, I will seek a second opinion and prepare myself for some hard work.
Ed
12:11 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Sorry Johnny, you said no NEW chemo, so I took that to mean chemo had already been used and it was amputation or die. If there are other options, fine, but that's not how you presented the analogy.
johnny towson
12:52 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
This post is split into two:
The County Executive is being praised for what he did not do and should not do, raise taxes. What my posts contend, is that the County Executive has yet to tell us what he is going to do.
The County Executive has highlighted his term thus far as an accomplishment in cost-cutting and efficiency; eliminating vacant positions is not slimming down government without the spin he uses to describe it. Cutting $30 Million from existing departments and creating a new $30 Million department is not net consolidation (see Public Works, Recs and Parks, and the new $30 Million “Property Management” division) Taking a service department from one function to improve a separate function only robs Peter to pay Paul. He stated that his work saves the tax payers money but the fact remains that the operating budget still increased!
The pension charade could be addressed by an entire separate post as could the foul restructuring of public safety and services.
johnny towson
12:54 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
...CONTINUED
Capital improvement attempts are not impressive either. 8 schools with AC, 2 construction projects. This is a good try to make a lemonade out of lemons. I get that.
But here is my remaining question to the Administration, and forget about trying to be "the ideas county of the region", that is not going to happen, Ulman and Howard County have a firm grasp on that one,
“As the leader of a community of 805,000 people, with remaining resources and opportunity that far exceed the majority of the United States, what is the vision that you, the County Executive, propose to the business community, the institutional community and the neighborhoods that will not just slow the economic and social decay but rather instead lead us to 2020 and beyond? If you do not have a vision that extends beyond mere survivorship, to include cow-towing for votes, please excuse yourself from the leadership and visionary role on which you campaigned, and let others who can and will, do.”
Ed
1:35 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Johhny,
I can't figure out what you are hoping from from Baltimore County government. You cite Ullman, but I can tell you he isn't slimming HoCo goverment and his "ideas" are coming with a cost. Leopold just announced his budget today and it makes KK look like a regular Ron Paul on the fiscal conservancy scale. Our commissioners up in Carroll are cheap, for sure, but they have even less vision than KK in these tight budget times. , with a puny commercial tax base, we have a higher property tax rate with no trash collection, an all-volunteer fire service (God bless them for their dedication) and a sheriff's department that just took over from MSP as our primary law enforcement (for cost savings, of course) and have turned into the Keystone Kops before our very eyes by bungling two major case investigations. By comparison, I think Baltimore County comes out pretty well.
johnny towson
2:52 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Thank you Ed for the response. The circumstances you cite are important issues concerning not just our county, but the larger community as well. What I expect from our County Executive is to not accept a "good enough"/ apathetic approach by government and a County Executive that abuses the current apathy of us voters as a means for a career. I expect our County Executive to be a heroic leader. I expect him to place county and voter before aspiring to a political career. I expect him to communicate and try to connect with the voters about what is and what could be- to do this without spin, with the inclusion of the County Council, and with humility, especially when members of the private sector are willing and capable of being of value. Political interference, obstruction, self-serving advocacy and arrogance is not going to be accepted by an informed Baltimore County. Kevin has nothing to change the incumbent policy makers and influencers that are carcinogens to the health of the County. I want the County Executive to be a man and not a nouveau-celebrity, want to be power-broker. He doesn't have it. But what he does possess is the ability to identify those in the community, and already within Government, that can help.
Ron Burgundy
7:49 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Johnny or should I say Ginny, who is the better manager?One who has all of the best players (Yankees/Red Sox) or the manager who gets the most out of their players and does the best job with what he's got. The Exec has done a great job with what he was dealt. And yes, it's time to put a finger in the dyke, and hold on while continuing services. What is your vision Ginny? Wouldn't we all want major corporations moving here sure but right now it's about keeping them here. Our schools are good, are quality of life is good, our roads are good, our public safety needs are being met. Are there room for improvements, sure, always will be, but right now we need a fiscal conservative in the exec office who "get's it". He understands what the time calls for and is delivering.
Bryan P. Sears
11:26 am on Friday, April 20, 2012
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johnny towson
9:45 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012
Ron, Kevin's fingers are in more than a dyke. What has Kevin done, what good initiative is he responsible for? He is depleting the resources and public will that were created by Administrations past; not to mention taking orders from Jablon and Homan. He has not had one significant success. His critics are growing by the second. But at least he has Ron Burgundy... where is Brian Fantana?
Wes Mantooth
10:29 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
In the newsteam van.
Shaun White
5:06 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
One very easy way that he could bring money into the county system but he flat out refuses to change the county charter for it would be to introduce Ambulance Billing. Here are the numbers, the average career ambulance has about 4000 runs a year, now cut out cancels, refusals. and no EMS needed, that brings it down to lets say 3100. A call that requires Adavanced Life Support costs about $900, a call that requires Basic Life Support cost about $600. Baltimore county and Montgomery county are the only jurisdictions that do not bill for ambulance transport. So lets cut that in half 1550 ALS calls at 900 a piece, thats 1.4 million dollars in ALS transports, and $930,000 in BLS transports, that a little over 2 million dollars, now there are 30 ambulances on the career side, so that is 60 million there, and on the volunteer side, there is 19 ambulances, each average about 1900-2000 calls respectively, so lets say $900,000 for ALS and $600,000 for BLS, thats a total of 1.5 million dollars per unit. Total that out, there will be one less hole in the budget. Now I know that there are people that are uninsured and will not pay the bill, but those numbers fail in comparison to how much money this county is losing out on. Baltimore City has a 38% collection rate of their EMS bills, but they will not hurt your credit score because it is soft billing, I believe its a federal law that does not allow you to go after someone for EMS transport.
Shaun White
5:15 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
And to add to the numbers above, medicare allows billing of $ 10 per mile transported. The average ride in Baltimore County is 7 miles to a hospital, obviously more in the more rural areas, Arcadia, Parkton, Kingsville, Edgemere, etc
Ed
10:17 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
Montgomery doesn't bill because the voters said no. I guess Baltimore County could get it through without a referrendum; I'm not sure. By the way, Dutch and Smith both put thumbs down on billing before KK, so he is following local tradition.
The problem, of course, is that many of the current taxpayers grew up listening to the 80s classis rock line, "i want my money for nothing and my chicks for free." In other words, don't DARE increase my taxes, but I better still get a cop, fire truck or medic unit at my front door 5 minutes after I call, my kids class size better not increase, we need more ball fields in my neighborhood, and so on. They want services but they don't want to pay the piper. Or should I say, they only want to pay for the services THEY think are important and to hell with everyone else.